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Cold Air vs. Wisper
the 2 hole in the ram air hood r bigger than the one hole coming from that box chrs1313. ive seen the sheets that show the diferences in the two graphed out, yes i am willing to wager
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From: Odessa Tx. "oilfeild country"
Very well said. There will be some air going through the hood but not as much as the air that is hitting the lower air deflector. Out of all the factory hoods, the WS6 hoods are the best but your performance increase is going to be the best with a bottom breathing kit.
Response We have been selling the FTRA since 1998 and there has been a lot of testing done on the kit (including independent testing). We have found that IAT temps are within a few degrees of ambient as soon as the car starts moving (within seconds).
Your assumption that the pavement is hot only affects the intake temps when it is sitting still. As soon as the car is moving, it is breathing ambient temperature air.
In contrast, the factory set up on an LS1 car breathes underhood heated air. If you look at your IAT temps, they will always be quite a bit more than ambient. It's just not a great system and the reason why just about aftermarket and even some factory systems try to gather cold air from the fender panels etc.
Colder air does equal more power but that is only one part of the additional power the FTRA provides. When the car is moving, their is a mild pressure increase in the intake system which improves the volumetric efficiency of the motor. This not only improves power, it also improves throttle response and fuel economy. Most people with the FTRA report 5-7 % better fuel economy. With that being said, the FTRA will eventually pay for itself.
Yes, you can have your cake and eat it too!
Your assumption that the pavement is hot only affects the intake temps when it is sitting still. As soon as the car is moving, it is breathing ambient temperature air.
In contrast, the factory set up on an LS1 car breathes underhood heated air. If you look at your IAT temps, they will always be quite a bit more than ambient. It's just not a great system and the reason why just about aftermarket and even some factory systems try to gather cold air from the fender panels etc.
Colder air does equal more power but that is only one part of the additional power the FTRA provides. When the car is moving, their is a mild pressure increase in the intake system which improves the volumetric efficiency of the motor. This not only improves power, it also improves throttle response and fuel economy. Most people with the FTRA report 5-7 % better fuel economy. With that being said, the FTRA will eventually pay for itself.
Yes, you can have your cake and eat it too!
i am willing to put $500 or more depending on you... for a intake that mimics the fast toys ram air system and takes air from below against your JAAM or like intake that takes only air from the 2 holes in the ram air hood...i am not joking or ******* around i am that confident and have done lots of research in this...test will obviously have to be performed at the track with the same car as a control due to a dyno no supplying enough air from a fan...let me just say this i had a ftra on my car and it performed great...probably gave me around 10rwhp after i did my intake that i have on my car now which you can see in my signature with back to back weekend testing with around same da and compared to another car which went both weekends and made no changes i gained another 12rwhp over the FTRA so on the low side around 22rwhp...let me know if you are still interested and we can meet up or if you trust someone that is local to me and we will perform the test at US41 or Route 66...let me know...we can set something up when the track opens in the spring...
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i found a couple helpful links for ya curtisad
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We would recommend a lid and the FTRA for the best performance. The K&N style open element air cleaners injest too much engine heated air. When the LS1's first came out, there were a few conical style open element air filter systems avaible. They all were outperformed by the lid style systems and disappeared shortly after.
actually i just havent been been on the net for a couple of days. let me figure out how to cut and paste something into one of these post and i'll just go ahead and prove u wrong right now instead of waiting until spring time.
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From: Odessa Tx. "oilfeild country"
? I had a normal lid on it to begin with. post up but i will not be satisfied until i perform the test myself too many controls can be left out...i.e. sealing properly, same testing conditions, same day, same car, etc...
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I've heard horror stories of cars overheating with the ftra, slp cai, ssra, and the like because they block the crossflow of air to the radiator. I understand that these systems cause the IAT to go up when stopped or stuck in traffic. Being in a fairly large city with terrible rush hours, I have steered clear of the bottom feeding systems. I have been reading about the JAAM system for a couple weeks and have decided that this is most likely my best route to take. An increase over stock, makes my hood functional, and I don't have to worry about overheating in traffic.
