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Last edited by 99blancoSS; Mar 28, 2008 at 01:16 PM.
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Me too!!
Un-informed people buy Taylor wires.
Taylor wire and how they break under normal duress
MSD wire and why it doesnt break under normal duress-- double crimp multi-angle electrode
When you want to get serious about your spark plug wires give me a pm. Taylor wires suck. They break just as sure as you buy them. The MSD 8.5mm Superconductor will not break in that manner at all. I have one here thats been manipulated by me trying to break it and even though I have it almost broken all the way it still hangs on and wont severe. The Taylor broke after two jiggles. The snaping of the wire into the coil is by design and all the LS1 plug wires do it. I can also tell you that the coil end electrode on the MSD is much better than the Taylor wire as well. It has a bigger crimping area which grabs better. I know these things for a fact. I have disected both wires completely and bought both sets of wires componants. Taylor wires are inferior to MSD. Plain and simple. Disect one of each and you'll see the reasons why. Or just look at my pictures. I had two Taylor wires break just from changing plugs. I decided that it would never happen to me again or anyone else I can save from a badly made wire.
I have the best price and will price match with free shipping. I'll, even make you an MSD wire with a Taylor coil end if your set on Taylor. I wont put they're spark plug end on how ever as I can guaranty it will break. And I wont make a wire that I know will not last very long. The coil ends are close to being the same with the edge going to the MSD for better crimping ears.
Taylor wire and how they break under normal duress
MSD wire and why it doesnt break under normal duress-- double crimp multi-angle electrode
When you want to get serious about your spark plug wires give me a pm. Taylor wires suck. They break just as sure as you buy them. The MSD 8.5mm Superconductor will not break in that manner at all. I have one here thats been manipulated by me trying to break it and even though I have it almost broken all the way it still hangs on and wont severe. The Taylor broke after two jiggles. The snaping of the wire into the coil is by design and all the LS1 plug wires do it. I can also tell you that the coil end electrode on the MSD is much better than the Taylor wire as well. It has a bigger crimping area which grabs better. I know these things for a fact. I have disected both wires completely and bought both sets of wires componants. Taylor wires are inferior to MSD. Plain and simple. Disect one of each and you'll see the reasons why. Or just look at my pictures. I had two Taylor wires break just from changing plugs. I decided that it would never happen to me again or anyone else I can save from a badly made wire.
I have the best price and will price match with free shipping. I'll, even make you an MSD wire with a Taylor coil end if your set on Taylor. I wont put they're spark plug end on how ever as I can guaranty it will break. And I wont make a wire that I know will not last very long. The coil ends are close to being the same with the edge going to the MSD for better crimping ears.
Last edited by 99blancoSS; Mar 31, 2008 at 09:35 AM.
i've been stranded twice now from stupid msd wires going to **** at the spark plug connection and wigling out from the coil pack. they only had 5k IF that. was lucky enough to have a friend with some old used taylor wires to help us get back home. right then and there snapping the old taylor wires in you could tell the connection was WAY better than the MSD's. i'm just going by first hand experience being stranded thanks to MSD's and rescued by Taylors...that's all
I'll post the difference again and show you that your imagining it. (the snaping part being better). They use the exact same electrode except the MSD has bigger crimping ears. The exact same part grabs the post in the coil. EXACT SAME, how can one be better than the other?? They cant. The crimp areas is bigger on ther MSD than the Taylor. Maybe it was user error I cant really say . Some people just grab the wire and yank away. I have 16 coils in my work shop and I test fit all the time. They all snap into place with a double click
Who's to say your mounts werent going bad and your engine was pulling them free on its own?
Some times factory wires can be defective. Thats why my wires are better. I make them myself. Quality control is in my hands and I inspect every crimp. I understand you had and issue. I can guaranty it was an abnormality. Taylors are famous for breaking at the spark plug boot. The spark plug connection was not the issue, I'll guaranty it. Its the best in the industry. Double crimp multi-angle. I can do a vid maybe to show you how easy the Tayor breaks and the abuse the MSD will take.
Who's to say your mounts werent going bad and your engine was pulling them free on its own?
Some times factory wires can be defective. Thats why my wires are better. I make them myself. Quality control is in my hands and I inspect every crimp. I understand you had and issue. I can guaranty it was an abnormality. Taylors are famous for breaking at the spark plug boot. The spark plug connection was not the issue, I'll guaranty it. Its the best in the industry. Double crimp multi-angle. I can do a vid maybe to show you how easy the Tayor breaks and the abuse the MSD will take.
Last edited by 99blancoSS; Mar 29, 2008 at 11:31 AM.
i had solid motor mounts but if you are saying that you do each one individualy then i think the quality will be better. when its time to replace these i will try YOURS. i am pissed at the quality of the ones that i bought but am willing to try the msd again through you later on.
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I am very sorry for your experience with them. I honestly would be making the Taylor wire instead if I thought it was in any way better. Let me know when your ready and I'll cut you a deal
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Well, I stand informed now, I guess. I just happened to agree that I liked the Taylors finger grips, and I haven't yet had any other problems with them. So that makes me a happy Taylor customer. I may buy them again. There are others too. But of course the advice we should heed is the advice from a sales rep from MSD.
It is usually not a good idea when trying to convert someone to a different product, to slam the product they are currently happy with. You simply state why you think your product is better, and let them think it's their idea to switch. I always change wires each time I change plugs, I may try different wires next time or I may stick with what I know works. You didn't earn any points with me with "When you want to get serious about your spark plug wires.........." Lacks a certain customer service appeal to say the least.
It is usually not a good idea when trying to convert someone to a different product, to slam the product they are currently happy with. You simply state why you think your product is better, and let them think it's their idea to switch. I always change wires each time I change plugs, I may try different wires next time or I may stick with what I know works. You didn't earn any points with me with "When you want to get serious about your spark plug wires.........." Lacks a certain customer service appeal to say the least.
well i've seen stock coil packs go up to about 850-900 hp taht was a reason i never bought the msd coils specially for almost 700 bucks for all 8 
but i'd be willing to try out the wires since there would be a price deal. would like to see these quality controlled wires, sides it's only reputation on the internet where everyone reads so it's no biggie...
but i'd be willing to try out the wires since there would be a price deal. would like to see these quality controlled wires, sides it's only reputation on the internet where everyone reads so it's no biggie... Actually I didnt slam Taylor wires I pointed out their flaws which is easy to do. I was a very un-happy Taylor wire customer. I'm glad you didnt experience what I did. I Spent $180 on a set of custom wires and the first time I changed plugs two of them broke. I showed you and everyone the picture of where it broke and explained to you why it wont happend with MSD. You can take the information or leave it.
I'm straight forward. I wasted money on Taylor wires and made it my cause to not let it happen to anyone else I can inform. Maybe you prefer a sales person who blows smoke up your ***. I'm not that person. I'm also using MSD in my products and selling them because I think its the best out there for the money. I could have hooked up with anyone.
I am serious about my wires. If you dont like my tone there is not much I can do. You either want a superior hand crafted product or you dont.
My message " if you want to get serious about your wires pm me" wasnt just intended for you. It was intended for all who are reading this. If I was making a sales pitch to you I would pm you. But I am not. I am educating anyone who reads this as best I can.
I'll say it again. If anyone wants superior hands crafted wire pm me.
I'm straight forward. I wasted money on Taylor wires and made it my cause to not let it happen to anyone else I can inform. Maybe you prefer a sales person who blows smoke up your ***. I'm not that person. I'm also using MSD in my products and selling them because I think its the best out there for the money. I could have hooked up with anyone.
I am serious about my wires. If you dont like my tone there is not much I can do. You either want a superior hand crafted product or you dont.
My message " if you want to get serious about your wires pm me" wasnt just intended for you. It was intended for all who are reading this. If I was making a sales pitch to you I would pm you. But I am not. I am educating anyone who reads this as best I can.
I'll say it again. If anyone wants superior hands crafted wire pm me.
well i've seen stock coil packs go up to about 850-900 hp taht was a reason i never bought the msd coils specially for almost 700 bucks for all 8 but i'd be willing to try out the wires since there would be a price deal. would like to see these quality controlled wires, sides it's only reputation on the internet where everyone reads so it's no biggie...
but i'd be willing to try out the wires since there would be a price deal. would like to see these quality controlled wires, sides it's only reputation on the internet where everyone reads so it's no biggie...And just to re-iterate, I'm not trying to bash anyone here. I'm trying to provide accurate information so a person can make an informed decision.
PM sent for some handcrafted MSDs.
