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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by White_Hawk
They have a badge on them, so I don't think so. It looks to me like these are not supposed to be welded. They fully weld the first two, but they can't weld the inside of the last two. If it was a tighter fit, it wouldn't leak, but the slip fit wasn't that tight and now there is a huge gap.

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ya they are supose to be a slip fit. you shouldnt have to weld all the way around if its done right. there shouldnt be ANY gaps. maybe its time for them to rethink their product .
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your headers look really bad, mine only had one small gap on one of the primarys........
Old Apr 2, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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I have one from the batch that had no emblem on them but the primarys were not welded in the middle like most. I hope mine dont leak if they do I will be pretty pissed off considering we buy there product over a set of flow tech or pacesetters for the quality and peace of mind that we wont ever have to buy another set of headers. I love mine though, the performance and looks are great. Mine have very nice welds on them and I speak highly of them. I hope this is just a very rare ocurance. I mean this is the first time I ever heard of this happening.
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How did you notice the leaks? Did it make a ticking sound?
Also,since it is upstream of the o2 sensor,did it richen up
the afr.?
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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How did you notice the leaks? Did it make a ticking sound?
Also,since it is upstream of the o2 sensor,did it richen up
the afr.?
Thanks.
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I noticed it because I get fumes in the car whenever I drive with the vent on. I tried different y-pipes, multiple band clamps, and lots of copper rtv to try to stop it from leaking. Then I was changing the oil and noticed the big leaks at the header. The driver's side one ticks, but the passenger side sounds like a leak.

Luckily I have an open loop tune so I am not using the O2's. My tune is rich right now, though, and it might be because the wideband was contaminated by the leak. I need to fix it and get it back on the dyno.

Does anyone know how hot headers get down at the collector? I need to find some epoxy that can take the heat.

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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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I THINK egts spike at about 1000* NA, but go well north of that with FI or spray. It also depends on what kind of immediate blockage you have in the Y-pipe, ie. cats.
Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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i realy dont think epoxys are going to do anything for ya. the way the exhaust system expands and contracts plus like stated the spikes in heat, its just going to come off. i use alot of times for minor block repair, an alum rod (not exactly alum but close) that melts w/ a map gas torch. ill ask my parts guy where it can be bought and ill let you know. i think you might be able to fix it w/ that.

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cant you just have an exhaust shop weld it up?
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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I was going to say if you use an oxy / acctaline torch and heat it up then flow some high temp alluminum in there, it should seal just like sealing copper water pipe, but a much higher temp of course.
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i realy dont think epoxys are going to do anything for ya. the way the exhaust system expands and contracts plus like stated the spikes in heat, its just going to come off. i use alot of times for minor block repair, an alum rod (not exactly alum but close) that melts w/ a map gas torch. ill ask my parts guy where it can be bought and ill let you know. i think you might be able to fix it w/ that.

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Let me know what that is. That is what I am looking for.

Originally Posted by GMmexican
cant you just have an exhaust shop weld it up?
There is no access to get a welder in there. It has to be something you can melt with a torch.

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I was going to say if you use an oxy / acctaline torch and heat it up then flow some high temp alluminum in there, it should seal just like sealing copper water pipe, but a much higher temp of course.
That sounds like what I am looking for. Do you just use aluminum welding rod? Do you know what grade?

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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 10:50 PM
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you'd use aluminum brazing/soldering rods. Like these: http://www.bernzomatic.com/bernzomat...rnzoProd100064

Says they are good to 750F, I'm thinking that is high enough to seal a leak.
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Originally Posted by White_Hawk
Here is a pic from the previous post. I will get pics of mine up tomorrow.

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Mine are leaking from that same spot, on both headers.
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I dont understand why QTP doesnt quality control their headers. A shop like them should have some quality control inspection before they ship out.
Old Apr 9, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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I dont understand why QTP doesnt quality control their headers. A shop like them should have some quality control inspection before they ship out.
QTP transfered their quality control to China a long time ago.

BTW Autozone carries a 2500 degree manifold patching material that works really good to seal up those cave like holes in QTP's "slip fit" connections.
Old Apr 9, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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You can melt a coat hanger like your talking about and seal that up. I bought some stainless exaust tips and used a torch/coat hanger to attach them to my hooker catback. They haven't fell off yet! Have you thought about wrapping the headers at that spot?
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I took my to a local exhaust shop and they were able to weld them......they sealed up pretty good
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Originally Posted by SS DNA
I dont understand why QTP doesnt quality control their headers. A shop like them should have some quality control inspection before they ship out.
Doesn't sound like a QA issue. Sounds like a longevity/design issue. It is tough to get stuff to hold up to major heat cycles that headers go through while being subjected to broad band vibe profiles.
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Originally Posted by aerotest
Doesn't sound like a QA issue. Sounds like a longevity/design issue. It is tough to get stuff to hold up to major heat cycles that headers go through while being subjected to broad band vibe profiles.
nope it is there quality control....my qtp headers came brand new with missing welds on the collectors, many people also have problems with the welds on there stainless steel cutouts
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nope it is there quality control....my qtp headers came brand new with missing welds on the collectors, many people also have problems with the welds on there stainless steel cutouts
Same here, definitely quality control. Mine leak since day one.
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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wow and qtp hasnt chimed in, i'm seriously reconsidering purchasing qtp's if i keep the car.



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