from Flowmaster 80 series to Hooker Aerochamber
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i have flowmaster 80 series on my car. as long as it flows better than stock, is enough for me. flows sound good IMO. not all mufflers flow the same or put out the same power. its just ur opinion and choice on how u want your car to sound
plan on installing LTs and ORY to my 80 series!
plan on installing LTs and ORY to my 80 series!
I wonder where people keep getting this flowmaster does not flow that well thing from. I've only seen one guy here actually put up the dyno graph and it was flowmaster vs the cut-out and he lost like 6-7 hp from a cut-out to flowmaster. I think its the size of the pipes that makes the difference all the 3in pipes flow the same if you get the bigger one say like the 3 1/2 loud mouth or something it will flow better, its crazy how many people jump into the hype just follow what the next man says.
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From: Edmond, OK
i have flowmaster 80 series on my car. as long as it flows better than stock, is enough for me. flows sound good IMO. not all mufflers flow the same or put out the same power. its just ur opinion and choice on how u want your car to sound
plan on installing LTs and ORY to my 80 series!
plan on installing LTs and ORY to my 80 series!
prepare for the rasp monster. you wont be running the 80 for long id put money on it. thats what i had on the car when i did long tubes and ORY. sounded great at WOT and the cops had time to get ready for ya. anything other than WOT it sounded like absolute ****. i personaly loved the flows sound as an only mod tho.
Last edited by Omec; Aug 15, 2008 at 01:15 AM.
I mean I understand what everbody is saying all I'm saying is where is the proof I only seen one person post up a dyno graph of runs done on the same day back to back cut-out open and cut-out closed with the flowmaster, and like I said he only lost like 7 hp on a car that was putting out like a little over 400. So where are the graphs with the back to back runs with the hookers and magnaflows against the flowmasters thats all I'm saying seems like alot of hear say and people just over doing bad rumors
Idle sounds awesome. its when you hit that 2100 rpm sweet spot all hell brakes loose. sounds like a midget is on the muffler smashing the hell outta it w/ a hammer. seriously, i short shifted the entire time i had the flow master on the car around town. it was very embarrassing and would not wish that sound amongst any f-body driver lol. that was through kooks LT, kooks ORY pipe. i cant imagin what it would sound like through a pacesetter ORY.
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I have the same issue now - LT's/ORY/80 series Flow. Idle and WOT sound good - everywhere in the middle sound pretty blah under load. I find myself down shifting to get rid of the resonance - it's even worse if the it's under 1500rpm and you try to accelerate.
I'll probably finish out the year with the cat-back and then go to a magnaflow.
I'll probably finish out the year with the cat-back and then go to a magnaflow.
I get sick of people bashing flowmaster becuase there total ****. Flowmaster has been around a long time and has some nice products. The 80 series does not flow as well as a hooker system or magnaflow etc. but it does flow better than stock. On a stock car, you are not going to notice any difference between a flowmaster and a magnaflow system. you might pick up a few HP but your not going to notice it. If your into racing, run a TD system or a super high flow setup. for an everyday car, pick the sound that you like. I've had a ton of different setups. flowmaster sounds great on a stock setup IMO. With LT's and ORY, it sounds like a tin can to me and i had to ditch it.
If you search flowmaster on any of these LS1 sites you hear how flowmasters suck so much ***...there horrible blah blah blah. You cant always go by what you read on the internet.
Some guy loses 8 HP between his cut-out and a flowmaster so right away, OMG these mufflers are total dog **** and every F-body newb thinks there total ****. Thats how this whole order got started way back when. on a stock to mildly modified car your not going to lose 30HP by having this catback or muffler, so unless you have dyno graphs to prove this muffler is causing your car to run slower, lose power, don't be so against this setup.
If you search flowmaster on any of these LS1 sites you hear how flowmasters suck so much ***...there horrible blah blah blah. You cant always go by what you read on the internet.
Some guy loses 8 HP between his cut-out and a flowmaster so right away, OMG these mufflers are total dog **** and every F-body newb thinks there total ****. Thats how this whole order got started way back when. on a stock to mildly modified car your not going to lose 30HP by having this catback or muffler, so unless you have dyno graphs to prove this muffler is causing your car to run slower, lose power, don't be so against this setup.
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From: Corpus Christi Texas
I'm happy with my Hooker c/b, though the fitment was TERRIBLE. Don't know if I got an off one or something, but I had to hack it up to make it fit.
However, it does have a nice low rumble. It's only a little louder than stock at idle (with a meaner tone), but man that thing wakes up at WOT.
However, it does have a nice low rumble. It's only a little louder than stock at idle (with a meaner tone), but man that thing wakes up at WOT.
i also had to cut and bend my suppermaxx kit. i seem to the only one to have that problem though. i must have a funny ws6 vert.
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Some guy loses 8 HP between his cut-out and a flowmaster so right away, OMG these mufflers are total dog **** and every F-body newb thinks there total ****. Thats how this whole order got started way back when. on a stock to mildly modified car your not going to lose 30HP by having this catback or muffler, so unless you have dyno graphs to prove this muffler is causing your car to run slower, lose power, don't be so against this setup.
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From: Raytown,MO
Its funny first I hear people say flows flow crappy but sound good now I see couple post people are like oh they sound crappy, I have the flows with off road y and pacesetter longtubes and my car sounds GOOD people always tell me damn that thing sounds mean its so funny to me one guy said his buddy lost 20 hp from flow to cut-out lol OK!! yeah right where is the graphs like. I said only one guy posted up his graphs of a run with the cut-out and flows done on the same day back to back and he only lost 8 from a cut out which is wide open flow to the cat-back unless you can prove it post some graphs or something I your claim is dodo
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From: Wilburton, Pennsylvania
I have flowmaster on my car with LTs and ORY and I love the sound of it from idle to WOT. I dont have any rasp at all. I would recommend it to anyone looking for a cat-back. I guaruntee that you will see no difference in 1/4 times if you run the flowmasters one run and switch to any other cat-back. The guy above me even proves that.
Like i said earlier, every catback sounds different. pick what sounds good and floats your boat. its your money and your car. they all will perform somewhat the same. I dont think you can go wrong with whatever you choose!
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I get sick of people bashing flowmaster becuase there total ****. Flowmaster has been around a long time and has some nice products. The 80 series does not flow as well as a hooker system or magnaflow etc. but it does flow better than stock. On a stock car, you are not going to notice any difference between a flowmaster and a magnaflow system. you might pick up a few HP but your not going to notice it. If your into racing, run a TD system or a super high flow setup. for an everyday car, pick the sound that you like. I've had a ton of different setups. flowmaster sounds great on a stock setup IMO. With LT's and ORY, it sounds like a tin can to me and i had to ditch it.
If you search flowmaster on any of these LS1 sites you hear how flowmasters suck so much ***...there horrible blah blah blah. You cant always go by what you read on the internet.
Some guy loses 8 HP between his cut-out and a flowmaster so right away, OMG these mufflers are total dog **** and every F-body newb thinks there total ****. Thats how this whole order got started way back when. on a stock to mildly modified car your not going to lose 30HP by having this catback or muffler, so unless you have dyno graphs to prove this muffler is causing your car to run slower, lose power, don't be so against this setup.
If you search flowmaster on any of these LS1 sites you hear how flowmasters suck so much ***...there horrible blah blah blah. You cant always go by what you read on the internet.
Some guy loses 8 HP between his cut-out and a flowmaster so right away, OMG these mufflers are total dog **** and every F-body newb thinks there total ****. Thats how this whole order got started way back when. on a stock to mildly modified car your not going to lose 30HP by having this catback or muffler, so unless you have dyno graphs to prove this muffler is causing your car to run slower, lose power, don't be so against this setup.
I was sticking up for the Flowmaster when I posted my dynograph. Losing 8rwhp aint **** when compared to an open cutout, which is basically the most free flowing setup u can get. And also, that 8rwhp gain is magnified somewhat because I have a big cam and full exaust. Like another guy said on here, if your car is basically stock or has just some bolt-ons, pick your muffler based on sound preference because there is not going to be enough performance gains to even tell any difference at all. On a max-effort, highly modified car, then exhaust setup and muffler choice becomes one of those critical decisions that have to be made.