View Poll Results: Ported FAST 92mm or Torquer V3
Torquer V3 is really worth it over a 224/FAST 92
12
54.55%
ported FAST 92mm is the best way to go!
10
45.45%
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New cam or FAST 92???? Help me decide!!!
New cam or FAST 92???? Help me decide!!! Ok, I've been going crazy over the last month about my next mod:
The short story:
-Should I get the Torquer V3 over my TR224 OR the FAST 92mm!??
The long story:
The only thing I know is thats a Thunder Racing cam peaking at 6200rpm with the LS6 intake with good power across the band. BUT, the car's idle is set at 1200rpm and it needs to be rev at 2000 to get a clean launch without surging or bugging(not sure if its clutch related). Pretty sure it might be the TR224.
So, its in the car since 5-7years I'd say. Maybe its time to freshen up the valvetrain and get one of the latest cam outhere. I'm really thinking about the Torquer V3. I should get all I need to do the swap for under 1000$. The car is not a DD, not a track car, just a highway terror
. Honestly, I like to cruise in sixth at 1800-2000rpm and do nice and long road trips
Rarely going over 2500rpm in town and I love my 3.42
OR, get the mighty FAST92mm, port it myself and hope its going to give me the famous 25rwhp for the 1200$++...
OR I just shut up and wait for the 9inch
The short story:
-Should I get the Torquer V3 over my TR224 OR the FAST 92mm!??
The long story:
The only thing I know is thats a Thunder Racing cam peaking at 6200rpm with the LS6 intake with good power across the band. BUT, the car's idle is set at 1200rpm and it needs to be rev at 2000 to get a clean launch without surging or bugging(not sure if its clutch related). Pretty sure it might be the TR224.
So, its in the car since 5-7years I'd say. Maybe its time to freshen up the valvetrain and get one of the latest cam outhere. I'm really thinking about the Torquer V3. I should get all I need to do the swap for under 1000$. The car is not a DD, not a track car, just a highway terror
. Honestly, I like to cruise in sixth at 1800-2000rpm and do nice and long road trips Rarely going over 2500rpm in town and I love my 3.42OR, get the mighty FAST92mm, port it myself and hope its going to give me the famous 25rwhp for the 1200$++...
OR I just shut up and wait for the 9inch
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go something bigger like 23x/24x with around 600 lift.
fast 92 is only worth it on bigger cams not much gain on smaller ones.. maybe 10-15rwhp instead of 25-30rwhp on a more aggressive setup.
go something bigger like 23x/24x with around 600 lift.
fast 92 is only worth it on bigger cams not much gain on smaller ones.. maybe 10-15rwhp instead of 25-30rwhp on a more aggressive setup.
I can see why youre saying this with the numbers youre putting down!!
I think the Torquer V3 is nice at 231/234 643/595..Keep in mind that I will not change the 3.42. Or go big or go home with the MS4 with the 3.42
I think the Torquer V3 is nice at 231/234 643/595..Keep in mind that I will not change the 3.42. Or go big or go home with the MS4 with the 3.42
Optimize that cam by pulling off the heads and CNC porting, light mill/ thin head gaskets to get your DCR up around 8.5:1. Should be good for 30+ hp. The car will still have good street manners too.
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go with that MS4 you will see impressive results!
torquer gonna give you same drivablity with less power trust me. Just get a good TUNER!
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I was going to put in a fast 92 right now... but with my luck my tuner is going on vacation to jamaica for 1 week! I cant wait I was going to the track. So now I am going to the track like this and will get some good #s first. Then do fast in the winter with a few other things for the next level and see what I gain.
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Well, keep me inform with those track numbers!!
About the gasket, I put a Fel-Pro because I did one head only(one leaking). Should have put the .40, but I was too lazy to do both..Anyway, I'm not sure about the MS4 because of what I do with the car and the gear. I will need to go back to TTP to get it retune..
What I fear the most is changing the cam and not seeing good hp increase, so I need to go really big I think.
About the gasket, I put a Fel-Pro because I did one head only(one leaking). Should have put the .40, but I was too lazy to do both..Anyway, I'm not sure about the MS4 because of what I do with the car and the gear. I will need to go back to TTP to get it retune..
What I fear the most is changing the cam and not seeing good hp increase, so I need to go really big I think.
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I would get the 92mm FAST intake and 92mm tb. and have Vengeance port it. If you really wanted to you could save a little more and get another cam.
Your TR224 should not be idling at 1200 rpm.
Your TR224 should not be idling at 1200 rpm.
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Well, keep me inform with those track numbers!!
About the gasket, I put a Fel-Pro because I did one head only(one leaking). Should have put the .40, but I was too lazy to do both..Anyway, I'm not sure about the MS4 because of what I do with the car and the gear. I will need to go back to TTP to get it retune..
What I fear the most is changing the cam and not seeing good hp increase, so I need to go really big I think.
About the gasket, I put a Fel-Pro because I did one head only(one leaking). Should have put the .40, but I was too lazy to do both..Anyway, I'm not sure about the MS4 because of what I do with the car and the gear. I will need to go back to TTP to get it retune..
What I fear the most is changing the cam and not seeing good hp increase, so I need to go really big I think.
Listen.. I am running gear as well trust me it wont be a problem. You can upgrade the rear gear later like I plan to in a year maybe. There is TONS of mid range in my cam and I have no problem trottin around town.
I am running stock gasket too no biggie.
The thing is I will get a 408 in the future(3-4years), but as long as the little forged LS1 holds, it will not happen. So the FAST would be a nice investment for the 408. Anyhow, I never felt right about the price of the FAST but everybody is getting impressive numbers with it.
ehh..
ehh..
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The thing is I will get a 408 in the future(3-4years), but as long as the little forged LS1 holds, it will not happen. So the FAST would be a nice investment for the 408. Anyhow, I never felt right about the price of the FAST but everybody is getting impressive numbers with it.
ehh..
ehh..
the 224 you have aint going to help your 408 at all.
TTP themselves have some sweet bigger cams!
Listen.. I am running gear as well trust me it wont be a problem. You can upgrade the rear gear later like I plan to in a year maybe. There is TONS of mid range in my cam and I have no problem trottin around town.
I am running stock gasket too no biggie.
Listen.. I am running gear as well trust me it wont be a problem. You can upgrade the rear gear later like I plan to in a year maybe. There is TONS of mid range in my cam and I have no problem trottin around town.
I am running stock gasket too no biggie.
I say just get the bigger cam now and worry about the $1200 92mm combo later. I used a MS3 in my 402 which would also work in your present motor and in your 408 but it would be a med size cam. I was able to make some pretty impressive #'s with a non ported fast 92 and a MS3 with 243 heads in a 402. I have very great driveablility with very very little bucking every once and a while which I will be getting tuned out next time I make it to my tuner.
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I dont get it ask TSP the MS4 will not loose anything compared to a stock com down low.. so how are you going to miss the power? just more midrange and wicked top.
now if you want a healthy bottom and thats what you want then you need a whole differnt cam. I dont know why you would want that. My car doesnt feel dead down low at all. 2nd gear rolls I can get on it at 1500 and at 3k it will rip tires to redline! very responsive for me and anything more would just be worse. plenty of down low middle and top.
now if you want a healthy bottom and thats what you want then you need a whole differnt cam. I dont know why you would want that. My car doesnt feel dead down low at all. 2nd gear rolls I can get on it at 1500 and at 3k it will rip tires to redline! very responsive for me and anything more would just be worse. plenty of down low middle and top.