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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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right now i have a 224/227 .563 .569 114 cam with the patriot gold dual springs.

i was thinking "maybe they are over kill with my cam"

i see the beehive springs are good for some 650 lift and they are single compared to the double.

i was wanting to know if the single springs offer quicker revs and more response
due to the lesser spring pressure.

i was also wanting to bump up the car while i'm in there to maybe a 230 .590 112 cam

any input appreciated
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by silverz28camaro
right now i have a 224/227 .563 .569 114 cam with the patriot gold dual springs.

i was thinking "maybe they are over kill with my cam"

i see the beehive springs are good for some 650 lift and they are single compared to the double.

i was wanting to know if the single springs offer quicker revs and more response
due to the lesser spring pressure.

i was also wanting to bump up the car while i'm in there to maybe a 230 .590 112 cam

any input appreciated
sure if u want too put the time into it then theres no reason why u shoulden't go 2 a custom grind like myself with putting 2 cams in within weeks of each other and happy now. i have the same dual springs and i like the security of having an extra spring so if i decide too open up the 3 1/2 in race headers . also a4/m6 ??
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a4 3600 stall

11.569 117 1.599 60'
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Originally Posted by silverz28camaro
right now i have a 224/227 .563 .569 114 cam with the patriot gold dual springs.

i was thinking "maybe they are over kill with my cam"

i see the beehive springs are good for some 650 lift and they are single compared to the double.

i was wanting to know if the single springs offer quicker revs and more response
due to the lesser spring pressure.

i was also wanting to bump up the car while i'm in there to maybe a 230 .590 112 cam

any input appreciated
Beehives. Better control for the pressure and lighter components. Just match it properly to the cam (ie adequate spring pressure and distance from coilbind) and you're good to go. I like PSI's stuff alot.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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Either valve spring will support your camshaft without any issues. We've gone 50k+ miles on PRC spring kits with 228R camshaft. I don't expect you to get near that kind of life out of a single beehive.
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I wouldnt go through the effort just to change springs. If you decide to go with a different cam, then go for it. But just for springs, nah. It is true, the single springs will better control the valvetrain. As far as the benefits of dual springs 1) the inner spring certainly adds to the durability of the outer spring 2) its nice to know if one breaks, you have back up insurance. That being said, if you match your cam and springs properly, you shouldnt have to worry about it
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Why is a beehive less durable/not last as long?

It seems with less weight to control, less friction/heat (from coils rubbing), and less spring pressure requirements (also less friction and heat) that the beehive would last longer. OEM's seem to agree too.
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