Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Spec me a cam for a high compression 347

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 1, 2008 | 01:49 PM
  #21  
Sales2@Texas-speed's Avatar
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,053
Likes: 7
From: Texas!
Default

Don't trust your nose (or a tuner's) to dial in your A/F ratio. I understand widebands being out of service, so this is in no way a shot at your tuner BTW. But we hear it all the time that a car smells rich and a customer wants a re-tune. I assume you're running off-road pipes. It's going to smell gaseous with the overlap you're running and no cats!
__________________


Largest Stocking Distributor of LS-x Engines / CHECK OUT OUR NEW WEBSITE!

COMP - FAST - PACESETTER - DIAMOND RACING - EAGLE SPECIALTY PRODUCTS - CALLIES - COMETIC GASKETS
RAM CLUTCHES - MOSER ENGINEERING - KOOK'S HEADERS - ARP - GM BOLTS AND GASKETS - MSD - NGK
POWERBOND - ASP - AND MORE!
Reply
Old Dec 1, 2008 | 01:55 PM
  #22  
ZFSix's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
From: Spring, TX
Default

Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
Don't trust your nose (or a tuner's) to dial in your A/F ratio. I understand widebands being out of service, so this is in no way a shot at your tuner BTW. But we hear it all the time that a car smells rich and a customer wants a re-tune. I assume you're running off-road pipes. It's going to smell gaseous with the overlap you're running and no cats!
Well, it definately does.

I didn't pay full price due to the a/f being out, but I definately want it re-tuned with a working wideband, and I am going to change plugs before I get it done, we'll see where it stands after that.

It might be a few weeks, finals week is coming up and I've got a ton of work to do.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 06:38 PM
  #23  
Irocss85's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,062
Likes: 0
From: waterford MI.
Default

im curious too. id do some data loogging first with reg fuel, then with some race fuel. kr or det. will both kill power. it is quite a bit low on power.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:11 AM
  #24  
ZFSix's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
From: Spring, TX
Default

Put some TR6s in it on Saturday, now I just gotta get it tuned and put a mix in it. Still runs the same after the plug change.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:17 AM
  #25  
First Collision's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 227
Likes: 0
From: Baytown, TX
Default

Fuel probably has a lot to do with it. Take it over to LMR for the tune. They did a good job on my car, and it's a 98... I plan on taking it back with the new setup I'm building. I've heard their dyno reads a little lower than some in the area, but it works very well for tuning.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:42 AM
  #26  
ZFSix's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
From: Spring, TX
Default

Originally Posted by TXMaro
Fuel probably has a lot to do with it. Take it over to LMR for the tune. They did a good job on my car, and it's a 98... I plan on taking it back with the new setup I'm building. I've heard their dyno reads a little lower than some in the area, but it works very well for tuning.
I doubt it's fuel. My fuel system is more than enough for the mods. They sell race fuel there so I will probably put a few gallons in and have Joe tune on it.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 10:18 AM
  #27  
Mean Green z28's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 864
Likes: 1
From: Annapolis, MD
Default

if you wanna play with cams I have a long duration/mid lift cam you can play with for a small amount ... similar to a Trex killer but a bit more duration.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 02:51 PM
  #28  
First Collision's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 227
Likes: 0
From: Baytown, TX
Default

I meant fuel octane, not lack of fuel.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-4

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-8

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 03:07 PM
  #29  
Patrick G's Avatar
LS1 Tech Administrator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,246
Likes: 34
From: Victoria, TX
Default

The cam is probably not the problem unless it's at some funky intake centerline. I'd highly recommend taking your car to a reputable tuner, one who has a load-bearing chassis dyno and make sure you put the wide-band O2 sensor in a bung just after your headers vs in the tailpipe. You'll get a much more reliable reading. I've seen some really jacked up tunes coming out of Houston that had terrible air/fuel ratios.
__________________

2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.

Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 03:27 PM
  #30  
sidewayz28's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,548
Likes: 1
From: seattle
Default

haha. wow that tuner must KNOW HIS ****.

and i bet you signed off a waiver saying if the motor popped on his dyno he would not be held liable?
that tuner is a CHUMP
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 04:19 PM
  #31  
DONAIMIAN's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 0
From: NW Houston, TX
Default

Sadly there's only a few shops that have good tuners in the Houston area. For me personally I feel that I don't really have any other options than learning to do it myself.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:17 PM
  #32  
98Aggie's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,241
Likes: 0
From: Mission Valley, TX
Default

Are you sure you don't have a dead coil? That would give you a 50-60hp increase. Check each plug with a timing light to see if there all firing.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:50 PM
  #33  
ZFSix's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
From: Spring, TX
Default

Originally Posted by sidewayz28
haha. wow that tuner must KNOW HIS ****.

and i bet you signed off a waiver saying if the motor popped on his dyno he would not be held liable?
that tuner is a CHUMP
Wow, what a mature post.

No, I didn't have to sign any waiver. The guy who tuned my car has tuned it 3 or 4 times before and I have had zero issues. The air fuel reading was not working on the dyno that we used, and he would gladly redo the tune for me on a dyno where everything is working correctly.

I doubt it is a dead coil. I would think that would be pretty easy to hear that something was wrong.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 11:39 PM
  #34  
98Aggie's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,241
Likes: 0
From: Mission Valley, TX
Default

Originally Posted by ZFSix

I doubt it is a dead coil. I would think that would be pretty easy to hear that something was wrong.

I've had a car on the dyno before making close to 600 then dropped a coil lost 80rwhp instantly. Should no signs in the data logs and you can not hear anything. Car still ran and idled - a little rough but wasn't blatantly obvious that a coil failed.
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:46 AM
  #35  
GoldRust's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor / 7 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 967
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Default

Just bring it by when you get a chance. I will take a closer look at it. Sometime I like a challenge.
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:01 AM
  #36  
ZFSix's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
From: Spring, TX
Default

Originally Posted by GoldRust
Just bring it by when you get a chance. I will take a closer look at it. Sometime I like a challenge.
Yeah I will for sure. I just sold the wheels off of it so it is sitting on jack stands right now... waiting on the new set.
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:53 PM
  #37  
sidewayz28's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,548
Likes: 1
From: seattle
Default

Originally Posted by ZFSix
Wow, what a mature post.

No, I didn't have to sign any waiver. The guy who tuned my car has tuned it 3 or 4 times before and I have had zero issues. The air fuel reading was not working on the dyno that we used, and he would gladly redo the tune for me on a dyno where everything is working correctly.

I doubt it is a dead coil. I would think that would be pretty easy to hear that something was wrong.
i try, good luck with the tune
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 04:43 PM
  #38  
SStock02's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: in my car
Default

ok update i purchased the car. has a new spec 3+ clutch and got tuned put 407hp and 393tq. Now the search continues
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 05:33 PM
  #39  
1969mach1's Avatar
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 458
Likes: 0
From: Bellaire, TX
Default

Originally Posted by SStock02
ok update i purchased the car. has a new spec 3+ clutch and got tuned put 407hp and 393tq. Now the search continues
you did get a nice car there. somethings up for sure, he was making more power with the stock ls1 as a cam only with the mega death cam from hpe.
very clean car though.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 05:49 PM
  #40  
wht01ws6ta's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,122
Likes: 0
From: Clarksville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by SStock02
ok update i purchased the car. has a new spec 3+ clutch and got tuned put 407hp and 393tq. Now the search continues
So this is your car now? Who tuned it, the same place? Keep us updated on what you find and good luck because there is a LOT of power missing still.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:47 PM.

story-0
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-4
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-5
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-6
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-9
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE