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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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I've actually been planning on getting a cam from them. A buddy of mine suggested the F6 112LSA. It would be going on my daily driver that right now has a cat-back, BBK throttle body, and K&N intake, all of which came on the car. I'm planning on adding an LS6 intake, pace setter LT's and y-pipe (already have these), valve springs, retainers, pushrods, and an LS2 timing chain, maybe an upgraded oil pump as well. Would this be a good match for my set up? Down the road I'm planning on adding heads and a 100-150 shot. Thanks for any help you guys can give me.
I am presently running a custom grind Futral (Cam Motion) see sig for specifications.On a 175 shoot (fly wheel rated) it pulled 602/571 on a DynoJet.On motor it pulled 482/443,and if the motor was better set up NA it could pull that 500 + rwhp #.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by david vericker
I am presently running a custom grind Futral (Cam Motion) see sig for specifications.On a 175 shoot (fly wheel rated) it pulled 602/571 on a DynoJet.On motor it pulled 482/443,and if the motor was better set up NA it could pull that 500 + rwhp #.
That is pretty good numbers
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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All these cams are starting to make me think I need to keep looking around from what I was going to get.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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I only use Futral cams - having tried the FM6 to a FM13 on my LS6 and then a larger custom grind on my 383 stroker. Strong numbers on the dyno and awesome results on the road courses! I had great experiences with Allan when it came time to decide on a custom grind to meet my specific needs. Mike
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hi-Po
All these cams are starting to make me think I need to keep looking around from what I was going to get.

your not the only one. that f14 is looking nice
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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Yea so far out of personal experience i like the f14 None HL the best altho i have only seen 2 (f14 HL and non HL) and personaly the non HL sounded better and it put down better numbers. Allan will hook you up tho i have already talked to him and seems very promising i cant wait.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 02:16 AM
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I have the F-11 228/230 114lsa .576/.595. I have full bolt ons/fast92 combo/stall making 418rwhp/386rwtq. It made 386rwhp/366rwtq with the ls6 intake.
Which stall are you using? I am pretty much set on getting a F13 cam but am not sure on which stall to go with.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AlohaC5
I only use Futral cams - having tried the FM6 to a FM13 on my LS6 and then a larger custom grind on my 383 stroker. Strong numbers on the dyno and awesome results on the road courses! I had great experiences with Allan when it came time to decide on a custom grind to meet my specific needs. Mike
Same here, I have been through a few different cams from Allen. I had a none HL F14, and it really rocked. I tried his 239 243 in my 383, and now have a 244 250 HL cam in my 383.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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The FM13 is the best 346 c.i. cam Alan has ever produced IMO. I consistently make 410+ rwhp on stock headed cars, and 450+ with heads/cam/stock intake and that cam. One of my older heads/cam setups made 425ft lbs with the FM13, with 4 yr old TEA heads and a stock LS6 intake.

Best 346 cam on the market IMO.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 00_STANG_KILLER
and personaly the non HL sounded better and it put down better numbers. Allan will hook you up tho i have already talked to him and seems very promising i cant wait.
Take one car and only change the cam from a non HL to a HL and you will pick up a good 10rwhp.... more lift equals more flow .... not to run the HL is just leaving HP on the table.

Some choose to use the regular lift just due to they are nervous about running .646/.612 of lift in there daily driver. Run some good dual springs and forget about it.

Just my 2cents
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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I have not seen the high lift make any more power then the regular lift.
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
I have not seen the high lift make any more power then the regular lift.
Agreed. One of my customers lost power going from an off-shelf FM13 to an HL FM14.
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Originally Posted by THE PUNSSHR
Which stall are you using? I am pretty much set on getting a F13 cam but am not sure on which stall to go with.
Yank SS3600
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxx03
Yank SS3600
Right on. I have been looking at that one. Have heard nothing but good. Would it go good with the F13? Also would the 114+4 be better than the 112+4 for an auto.. Thanks..
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Originally Posted by THE PUNSSHR
Right on. I have been looking at that one. Have heard nothing but good. Would it go good with the F13? Also would the 114+4 be better than the 112+4 for an auto.. Thanks..
I'm not sure how the 3600 would go with the f13 but the 114lsa is good for auto. You could go with the 112 for more lope
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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Im doing the Fm13/112 after i get my clutch in and tsp starts producing more lts..
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I think with the f13 you could do great with a 3600 stall as it has great tq starting low in the power band. Although a 4000 would be damn near perfect.

That depends on what you want out of your car.
The 13 starts early and liked to be shifted in my car at 6700. The f14 that is in my car now pulls all the way to 7000 but does not seem to have quite the low end punch my 13 had. The f14 is in my 6.0 with only 10.3/1 compression so that could be where my bottom end went.

Allen had alot of input from one of the best cam guy's in the industry that was at Cam Motions for years and now works at Futrals shop. (Terry)
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^^ I want to have good low end torque and be pretty street friendly, which I guess the 3600 would be better than the 4000 at? I don't race really, but it would be good to be able to run from a dig or even a roll once in a while. What would be the big difference between getting a 3600 and a 4000?
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running standard f14 cam and pulling 400-405 with cam only. looking to slap heads on in the next 2 months to put me around 445-460.
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The F14 definitely pulls to 7000 and also like some compression. I was running some where around 11.8 with mine, and it operated flawlessly.
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