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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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I am thinking of building my ls1 up myself. I am going to keep it a stock 346 or 346, with forged rods and boost pistons. Has anyone done this themself? Would it be hard to build? I have done about everything to this car myself except build the motor.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Have you had any experience with any engine building at all ? As for hard no, but checking all the clearances and knowing what you need can be hard, One wrong clearance ,like rods & mains, If your off .001" to .0015",and ring gaps,you can have problems. Mark all rod & pistons with the cylinder they came out of. There's some good books out there on LS1 engine and do a lot of research here. You can build one just by reading and research.And make shore every thing is clean , i mean very clean.Have it honed out to 3.905" and put 6.125" rods=347cid. The hone needs to be done to make all the cylinder round so the new rings will seat properly .For what your doing the price difference would only be the hone work, And replace the cam bearing while you have it down and lifters were there under the heads. Hope this helps you some.

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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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I built mine . Only 20 yo here.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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is there any step by step books or videos?
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:42 AM
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i dunno about a step by step books, but theres a book that could possibly help, its "how to build ls1/ls6" u can get one at autozone, or a lil cheaper on amazon.com! i havent built mine yet, still working on getting all of my parts for it! 2 friends will be helping me with mine though! best of luck to ya!
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dreamls1
is there any step by step books or videos?
Yep...How to Rebuild GM LS-Series Engines by Chris Werner should do.
also the book below is helpful for removing the engine.
How to Build High-Performance Chevy LS1/LS6 V-8s: Modifying and Tuning Gen III Engines for GM Cars & Pickups by Will Handzel.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Here's a few books and articals on the LS1 , also google (how to build a LS1)


http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ild/index.html

http://www.themotorbookstore.com/ls1...8-engines.html

http://www.amazon.com/How-Build-High.../dp/1884089844
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so can i use a ball hone, and hone it out myself, then use stock size forged pistons and rods and stock crank?
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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so can i use a ball hone, and hone it out myself, then use stock size forged pistons and rods and stock crank?
No!!! You Need to check the cylinders for Size and out of round first.... This will determine the Next step and if you can use a stock sized piston... You may need to go to a .005 oversized piston to get the proper piston to wall clearance...

Assuming there is no excessive wear requiring it to be over bored,
The best thing to do would be to have it Honed oversized With a tourque Plate. This will simulate haveing a head tourqued on there during the honeing process and insure you have a uniform wall finish and that there is no distortion in the cylinders when the motor is re-assembled...

Seeing as how you are asking these types of questions, I would assume you don't have the proper equipment to check that stuff. You may want to find a Good Reputable machine shop that will do it for you. Don't Just go to any machine shop. Find one near your area that has a good reputation.
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The price on the forged stock size and over size is the same, The only extra cost of the bore.And it worth every dime of it, to get a true round cylinder and max compression and minimum blow by. The factory bore is a little over size, That what causes piston slap or cold knock, If you have the block bore and matching pistons the cold knock will stop.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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http://www.hpvideo.org/

These videos are pretty good - I think he may have some excerpts on youtube.
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I just finished building my LS1. I had done a heads and cam install but this was my first complete teardown and rebuild. I had a local shop hone my cylinders and balance my rotating assembly but I did everything else. I selected JE pistons and Manley sportmaster I-beam rods to go with my stock crank. I am very pleased with my garage-built 347. It spins smoothly to 7000 rpm and makes more than 400 rwhp with stock 243 heads. There are opportunities to make mistakes. You need to think things through and double-check your decisions and your work. LS1Tech was my primary resource - everything I needed to know is here. I say, go for it. I'm glad I did.

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Originally Posted by Gary Z
I just finished building my LS1. I had done a heads and cam install but this was my first complete teardown and rebuild. I had a local shop hone my cylinders and balance my rotating assembly but I did everything else. I selected JE pistons and Manley sportmaster I-beam rods to go with my stock crank. I am very pleased with my garage-built 347. It spins smoothly to 7000 rpm and makes more than 400 rwhp with stock 243 heads. There are opportunities to make mistakes. You need to think things through and double-check your decisions and your work. LS1Tech was my primary resource - everything I needed to know is here. I say, go for it. I'm glad I did.
What machine shop did you use? How much did it end up costing you if you don't mind me asking? You can pm if you like
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I built my 402 all by me self..
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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What machine shop did you use? How much did it end up costing you if you don't mind me asking?
JNW Engine and Machine in Santa Rosa. Jerry White is a nice guy with a lot of experience. I haven't added up my costs - too much. In my case DIY was not a way to save because I needed to buy tools and equipment. I also wasted money changing course mid-stream. I've chalked it all up to education expenses.
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Nothing REALLY hard about it. Just check and DOUBLE check your clearances. Take your time and do it right the first time! Just like stated above make sure EVERYTHING is super clean. BTW don't know if you looked but be prepared to spend some money on the gaskets. LOL
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Originally Posted by Gary Z
JNW Engine and Machine in Santa Rosa. Jerry White is a nice guy with a lot of experience. I haven't added up my costs - too much. In my case DIY was not a way to save because I needed to buy tools and equipment. I also wasted money changing course mid-stream. I've chalked it all up to education expenses.
Ok thanks. I'm trying to figure out what i need to because its time for an overhaul
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marlon sorry to hear about your car man... that was a bad night... was it a rod bearing or??
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marlon sorry to hear about your car man... that was a bad night... was it a rod bearing or??
Yea i think its a rod bearing
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You're gona need a garage, a few good books, tools, and engine stand, and a hoist. The first time I built an engine, it was because I spun a rod bearing, it's not that big of a deal. BUT the price will add up, when you start including tools, and the "well I might as well do this while I get the engine on a stand" mods...
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