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Old 02-28-2009, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 108dragon
Kinda depends on the cubic inches and efficiency of the engine the cam is going into also, doesn't it? Or are we just talking about pushing a 346 LS1 to 500 rwhp?
I was assuming he has a 346 ls1...now if its a built motor then thats a different story
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Dont really care about numbers just wanna go 10.50's or faster on motor
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Originally Posted by 19trans_am98
Dont really care about numbers just wanna go 10.50's or faster on motor
Thats the real trick then, ain't it? lol There is a LOT more to doing a 10.50 quarter than just the power of the engine. Suspension and gearing are easily 70% of that equation. If you can't hook, you ain't goin nowhere fast... even with a 1000hp under the hood.
Superchargers, turbos, and nitrous are sexy. But personally, I dig the idea of 500+ of engine only hp. It's reliable, stable, consistant, and -best of all- simple. In that arena, however, cubic inches are king.
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Go with the ms4, mine made 485 before true duals, and before I went to an EWP and got rid of a/c and p.s.
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Originally Posted by 108dragon
Thats the real trick then, ain't it? lol There is a LOT more to doing a 10.50 quarter than just the power of the engine. Suspension and gearing are easily 70% of that equation. If you can't hook, you ain't goin nowhere fast... even with a 1000hp under the hood.
Superchargers, turbos, and nitrous are sexy. But personally, I dig the idea of 500+ of engine only hp. It's reliable, stable, consistant, and -best of all- simple. In that arena, however, cubic inches are king.
I've got all the suspension already ie. control arms drag shocks and torque arm and fixing to have a 9 inch....so now just looking to get the car into the tens on motor and still run stock cubes.....the motor is already built just needing heads and cam...final comp. will be 12:5.1....going with the tfs 215's and dunno what cam yet?
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I believe it is Texas Speed that has the fastest 346" motor car. It would be interesting to see exactly what they are doing to get thier car into the 9's.
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haha about 2500lbs....and a ms3, some prc 215 heads and 90/90...not sure how much power they had but with 2500lbs you can make anything fast!!
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I really think any of these cams can be used to get to 500hp. The more important parts are the heads, air flow and compression. You should throw the polluter up there too.
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So, Im not trying to be a jerk. This is an honest question I like to ask, just to learn.

Why do you want 500hp? Did you pick a number out of the thin air? Do you feel you need to make some club, or wear the number like a girl wears expencive cloths?

Have you driven 500hp? A number isnt a tangable goal, I can make you a 500hp dyno graph out of any pull you want. A goal should be tangable, and more like real " I want to run 11s"

I want to ask this in about 20 threads a day and dont......but I have to ask someone.
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Maybe he wants to be able to put 500hp decals on the car.
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Why didn't you ask what cam would be good for 10.50s? Completely different than 500whp.



Personally, I'm a fan of custom grinds. For not much more money, you don't have to compromise on your cam selection. Get it tailored to your exact goals/setup.
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i suggest going with a custom grind from someone who know's what they are doing and has alot of respect, pat g comes to mind, custom grind will be way better than an off the shelf can, they can custom taylor it to the flow specs of the tfs heads your going with, and header size, intake manifold type, and specifically what kind of power your looking for. And how much piston to valve clearance you need with these heads and mill your running, commpression ration ect. ect. Its just better than picking an off the shelf grind. Personally if your going with tfs heads go with the vindicator. Vengeance has made plenty of power with those heads and that cam.
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Originally Posted by 1SLwLS1
.649 on the ms4? holy crap
you gotta love it!!!!!
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I am sure I will
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Originally Posted by rumblebox
do you want a dyno queen, or something that's actually fast?
werd...
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Custom spec cam. Talk to pred or pat g
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Great cam-only cam that will go good with nitrous and work very well under area with aftermarket heads that flow as good as TFS215, 231/239 on a 113 LSr. Enjoy.

Understanding the fact that the cam doesn't make or break your combo is the real key though. YOu need to beable to build a combo that works well together. Just throwing on some high dollar heads along with a big cam and expecting 500 to the wheels is a pretty far cry. More or less et a goal for the car, as was mentioned 10.50's on motor. Maybe you may be better by starting at breaking 11's with full bolt-ons first. I am willing to bet that you can easily make 470 to the wheels and still be in the 12 sec club.
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I did a quick search when I bought mine and found the specs on here
G5X3_234/242 .598/.610 112lsa
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Originally Posted by 19trans_am98
Which is the better cam for 500hp N/A and some n2o..going along with a set of tfs 215 heads
ECS cam; they already have a TFS h/c package that makes 504RWHP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlU4iZxH4lQ
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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
So, Im not trying to be a jerk. This is an honest question I like to ask, just to learn.

Why do you want 500hp? Did you pick a number out of the thin air? Do you feel you need to make some club, or wear the number like a girl wears expencive cloths?

Have you driven 500hp? A number isnt a tangable goal, I can make you a 500hp dyno graph out of any pull you want. A goal should be tangable, and more like real " I want to run 11s"

I want to ask this in about 20 threads a day and dont......but I have to ask someone.
yes as of now my cars puts down 522 on the spray...but i want about that all motor....so im switching things up and changing the heads and the cam... i want the car to run 10.50's n/a and to do so with full weight i will have to have around 500hp....so thats the reason i was shooting for that goal but if i dont make it oh well ill just spray it.....and on the spray i want to get into the nines....oh and illl prolly spray 250-300 shot so there is no doubt that it should go nines if it hooks



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