Rev dual springs w/ G5X2 cam?
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Rev dual springs w/ G5X2 cam?
I currently have Comp918's and a 224 cam. I want the G5X2 cam, but I will need to strengthen the valvetrain i.e. springs. Will the Rev duals hold up to the G5X2 cam? I want any info on the Rev dual spring set-up. All feedback is appreciated. I am trying to avoid pulling the heads again. I don't want to have to send them in for machining for Comp springs. I would sooner stay with my current set-up.
Thanks,
Matt
Thanks,
Matt
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As far as everything else goes, It already has new seals vie TEA. They did my head work. 5.7's milled .030, ported intake and exhaust ports, so on and so forth. I heard a horror story on a local board about a guy that broke 6 rev dual springs with the G5X2 cam. THis story leaves me wondering whether or not he heat cycled them correctly or at all. I am very meticulous on this sort of thing, and that scared the hell out of me.
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Originally Posted by dragonZ28
As far as everything else goes, It already has new seals vie TEA. They did my head work. 5.7's milled .030, ported intake and exhaust ports, so on and so forth. I heard a horror story on a local board about a guy that broke 6 rev dual springs with the G5X2 cam. THis story leaves me wondering whether or not he heat cycled them correctly or at all. I am very meticulous on this sort of thing, and that scared the hell out of me.
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Hi Guys,
Rev has come out with a new retainer that will give the springs some extra room. We give the customer a choice of REV springs, Isky, Comp or Crain. Each spring is more expensive than the REV. In the early batches of REV springs, we didn't see any problems. Just lately have we seen some REV springs break. If the car shows signs of a broken spring, and the driver does not hot rod the car to try to "make the missfire go away". then the inner spring will hold the valve up and there will be no damage.
The new Comp 921 springs are about $250 more expensive than the REVs, but they are also a dual spring that is a drop in spring good to .650 lift. For $250 extra you can get peace of mind if you think there is a problem.
We are now letting the customer decide.
Now, having said that, I took my car out with the G5X-3 cam in it with REV springs and ran it on a road race track for 400 miles of hard racing at 7000rpms and had no problems. They also had 8000 street miles on them before. I think that there might have been a bad batch somewhere in the last year that caused some problems, but they fixed it lately.
Springs are a "consumable" in a race engine.
Thanks
Lou G
Rev has come out with a new retainer that will give the springs some extra room. We give the customer a choice of REV springs, Isky, Comp or Crain. Each spring is more expensive than the REV. In the early batches of REV springs, we didn't see any problems. Just lately have we seen some REV springs break. If the car shows signs of a broken spring, and the driver does not hot rod the car to try to "make the missfire go away". then the inner spring will hold the valve up and there will be no damage.
The new Comp 921 springs are about $250 more expensive than the REVs, but they are also a dual spring that is a drop in spring good to .650 lift. For $250 extra you can get peace of mind if you think there is a problem.
We are now letting the customer decide.
Now, having said that, I took my car out with the G5X-3 cam in it with REV springs and ran it on a road race track for 400 miles of hard racing at 7000rpms and had no problems. They also had 8000 street miles on them before. I think that there might have been a bad batch somewhere in the last year that caused some problems, but they fixed it lately.
Springs are a "consumable" in a race engine.
Thanks
Lou G
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I like the comps the best because of the true dual set up.
The Iskys are still a very good spring and can hold up to the job, but if they ever fo break, the driver has to be alert and not drive the car so there is no damage.
On our complete head packages, we are using the Comp 977s but you need to run a comp R lifter.
LG
The Iskys are still a very good spring and can hold up to the job, but if they ever fo break, the driver has to be alert and not drive the car so there is no damage.
On our complete head packages, we are using the Comp 977s but you need to run a comp R lifter.
LG
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Originally Posted by LG Motorsports
I like the comps the best because of the true dual set up.
The Iskys are still a very good spring and can hold up to the job, but if they ever fo break, the driver has to be alert and not drive the car so there is no damage.
On our complete head packages, we are using the Comp 977s but you need to run a comp R lifter.
LG
The Iskys are still a very good spring and can hold up to the job, but if they ever fo break, the driver has to be alert and not drive the car so there is no damage.
On our complete head packages, we are using the Comp 977s but you need to run a comp R lifter.
LG
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Originally Posted by dragonZ28
I am not planning on touching the pistons. I will get in touch with TEA or LG about clearance issues later. Will it clear? That would also be nice to know at the time.
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Originally Posted by dragonZ28
As far as everything else goes, It already has new seals vie TEA. They did my head work. 5.7's milled .030, ported intake and exhaust ports, so on and so forth. I heard a horror story on a local board about a guy that broke 6 rev dual springs with the G5X2 cam. THis story leaves me wondering whether or not he heat cycled them correctly or at all. I am very meticulous on this sort of thing, and that scared the hell out of me.
Originally Posted by pewter99SS
Also do you recommend 1.8 rockers with your G5X-2 or x-3 cams?
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Originally Posted by LG Motorsports
I like the comps the best because of the true dual set up.
The Iskys are still a very good spring and can hold up to the job, but if they ever fo break, the driver has to be alert and not drive the car so there is no damage.
On our complete head packages, we are using the Comp 977s but you need to run a comp R lifter.
LG
The Iskys are still a very good spring and can hold up to the job, but if they ever fo break, the driver has to be alert and not drive the car so there is no damage.
On our complete head packages, we are using the Comp 977s but you need to run a comp R lifter.
LG
In addition, when will the G5X3's be ready for the public.. and will the spec's be readily available, and how is the G5X3 better than the G5X2?
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Originally Posted by mrb00formula
What is to be gained or improved by using the Comp "R" Lifters and the Comp 977 springs? That is what I went with for my Absolute Speed 5.3L's that Jay is working on.
In addition, when will the G5X3's be ready for the public.. and will the spec's be readily available, and how is the G5X3 better than the G5X2?
In addition, when will the G5X3's be ready for the public.. and will the spec's be readily available, and how is the G5X3 better than the G5X2?
I *think* that the 977s high seat pressure can/will collapse a stock hydraulic lifter. I am not sure, its just what Jay and Lou said I needed. :worship:
As LG put it, "The G5X3 is like a G5X2 on steriods." I think theres probably 5-15hp/tq difference between the X2 and X3, but you'd have to ask Lou, hes done some actual comparisons. As far as the specs, they will probably not be readily available at first, but someone will figure them out.