ms3 and no stall? possible?
06-10-2009, 01:06 AM
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Honestly.....No, I don't know. If you are referring to it pushing on the brakes then that is from raising the idle. It is a little high for my me and it can be lowered a couple hundred but the person that tuned it had his **** stolen.....now I need to buy HP Tuners! Idle is ~900 in gear at idle, the cam sounded sick on the stock idle though
06-10-2009, 01:28 AM
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Look slowlsx, basically the logical thing to do is the converter. You might be going through the same thing I was and wanted that cam sound without following the "correct" order of mods. It is up to you but the car WILL run crappy without a tune and stall. It sucked when I put my cam in (228R) because it would buck and shut off on me at lights. However, you never know your car might react well and stay on but if I were you I would just wait on the stall first.
06-10-2009, 01:53 AM
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Honestly.....No, I don't know. If you are referring to it pushing on the brakes then that is from raising the idle. It is a little high for my me and it can be lowered a couple hundred but the person that tuned it had his **** stolen.....now I need to buy HP Tuners! Idle is ~900 in gear at idle, the cam sounded sick on the stock idle though
Look slowlsx, basically the logical thing to do is the converter. You might be going through the same thing I was and wanted that cam sound without following the "correct" order of mods. It is up to you but the car WILL run crappy without a tune and stall. It sucked when I put my cam in (228R) because it would buck and shut off on me at lights. However, you never know your car might react well and stay on but if I were you I would just wait on the stall first.
your problem with it bucking was either... locking up at too slow of a speed, too low of gears, or a shitty tune..
your problem of dying at red lights, shitty tune.
niether of those have anything to do with the stall. the only one somewhat having a part in it would be the bucking, just depends on where his car locks up at with that.
06-10-2009, 02:06 AM
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ok guys yall are missing the point here... simple question can it be driven with an ms3 for a month or so. im putting full bolt on's nitrous kit and have a set of dual valve springs so for 300 bucks i can get a used ms3 and just stick it in there till i get the converter. i see it as im already under the hood so ill just put the cam and save up another 800$ and get a cirlce d in a month or so. im not planning on going to the track with an ms3 and no stall looking like a dumass running low 12's maybe if im lucky, im just going to be driving it till then. it will be tuned by hp tuner's so i think it should be fine im actually evan thinking about going ms4 since i will be putting 4000 circle-d and i already have 410's which made my car come alive, its bone stock with 410's on 315 dr's and goes sideway's from a 30 roll amazed me 
. thanks for all the replie's
. thanks for all the replie's
06-10-2009, 02:17 AM
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ok guys yall are missing the point here... simple question can it be driven with an ms3 for a month or so. im putting full bolt on's nitrous kit and have a set of dual valve springs so for 300 bucks i can get a used ms3 and just stick it in there till i get the converter. i see it as im already under the hood so ill just put the cam and save up another 800$ and get a cirlce d in a month or so. im not planning on going to the track with an ms3 and no stall looking like a dumass running low 12's maybe if im lucky, im just going to be driving it till then. it will be tuned by hp tuner's so i think it should be fine im actually evan thinking about going ms4 since i will be putting 4000 circle-d and i already have 410's which made my car come alive, its bone stock with 410's on 315 dr's and goes sideway's from a 30 roll amazed me . thanks for all the replie's
. thanks for all the replie'sgo ms4, you will thank me...
06-10-2009, 02:18 AM
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i have a pretty good size cam in my car with no stall and it does not buck at stop lights or anything like that. somtimes if its really cold it will die but other than that no problems
06-10-2009, 10:26 AM
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ok guys yall are missing the point here... simple question can it be driven with an ms3 for a month or so. im putting full bolt on's nitrous kit and have a set of dual valve springs so for 300 bucks i can get a used ms3 and just stick it in there till i get the converter. i see it as im already under the hood so ill just put the cam and save up another 800$ and get a cirlce d in a month or so. im not planning on going to the track with an ms3 and no stall looking like a dumass running low 12's maybe if im lucky, im just going to be driving it till then. it will be tuned by hp tuner's so i think it should be fine im actually evan thinking about going ms4 since i will be putting 4000 circle-d and i already have 410's which made my car come alive, its bone stock with 410's on 315 dr's and goes sideway's from a 30 roll amazed me . thanks for all the replie's
. thanks for all the replie's
06-10-2009, 02:20 PM
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Every car reacts differently. You can't definitely say his car will idle and stay on without any kind of slight tuning. My car didn't and my cam wasn't as big as his when it was untuned. Just trying to give you both sides of the spectrum. My tuner adjusted my car so it could idle then when I put in the stall he tuned it, you can do that until you are able to put the stall in. Good luck.
06-10-2009, 06:02 PM
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Idle isnt really the only issue, mine idles awesome. Its the fact the car drives like ****, trust me. Its not all because of no stall its because of no tune. MS3 is a big ******* cam, unless you have experienced driving on one with no tune and no stall you cant really tell this guy it's gonna be fine. You will get from A-to-B but you will hate driving it and it will run so rich you will smell like exhaust.
06-10-2009, 11:34 PM
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you are always gonna get some guy who did it but so remember every car is different but like said earlier can it be done? Anything can be done with money but will it be effective no just don't floor it or just wait c'mon patience is a virtue why now u gonna do the rest of the top half or just blow that as well. Brakes gone and rolling through the brakes at a stop light sounds like you might be needing a front bumper to go along with it. Or be pulled over for some loud/smokey exhaust killing everyone around you. Basically you can but gonna be trouble so like Ls1 Silverado stated be the guinea pig and do it then let us all know. I want that cam as well but I am putting my 3200 in then going cam. Get converter then get cam to match converter.
06-11-2009, 12:34 AM
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Is this your daily driver or is it a weekend warrior?
Daily driver- definately leave the cam for last!
Weekend warrior- doesnt really matter, yes the car wont run great but its not like you are driving in rush hour traffic day after day
Daily driver- definately leave the cam for last!
Weekend warrior- doesnt really matter, yes the car wont run great but its not like you are driving in rush hour traffic day after day
06-11-2009, 12:43 AM
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Wow! I remember seeing a mod path like this. Seen a STOCK 98 Z with MS3, lid, and a catback. Took FOREVER for him to finally get it to run right and even when he did it wouldn't fall out of a tree. All that work for NOTHING.
06-11-2009, 01:08 AM
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you are always gonna get some guy who did it but so remember every car is different but like said earlier can it be done? Anything can be done with money but will it be effective no just don't floor it or just wait c'mon patience is a virtue why now u gonna do the rest of the top half or just blow that as well. Brakes gone and rolling through the brakes at a stop light sounds like you might be needing a front bumper to go along with it. Or be pulled over for some loud/smokey exhaust killing everyone around you. Basically you can but gonna be trouble so like Ls1 Silverado stated be the guinea pig and do it then let us all know. I want that cam as well but I am putting my 3200 in then going cam. Get converter then get cam to match converter.
***the op went with an ms4...
