SuperSlowSSLS1 ...

No, I am not complaining about you 'throwing rocks'

I just made the post after reading all the crap posted against TEA lately.

People questioning the relationship between TEA and SAM (like TEA could not produce a good head without SAMs help) (which is BS) is just an example.

Another example is the mis-information going around here that TEAs heads basically drop dead after .500" lift numbers is more BS, to say the least!

 

I think that my heads are TEA ported (I got them in January from ARE - heard they were TEA ports). I picked up 60 rwhp over my baseline tune with them and a very mild cam. The LPE GT2-3 is just a Ls6 on steroids with .570 lift. I also have mac mids and the blower is gone to memphis, power made through a 3.73 12 bolt. I am running stock timing, and when I dynoed it the A/F was 10.8 to one (forgot to turn COT off, doh!). I am very happy with the setup. I'd say you are missing a little but not much. Maybe you have a high rpm misfire or something.

-Geoff

 

Thank you for your reply brent and yes you are right a/f and timing.What can you do for me and superslow about our heads please?

 

Chevydan what are u going to do about your setup?

 

Prolly going to take the heads off and send them in.

 

I don't think it's the heads. CNC machines are very precise, meaning they can reproduce the SAME things over and over again within tolerances we can't even see.

I don't think for one second that it's the heads.

 

Cannibal i dont know either but my car put down 37xrwh and 360rwt untuned before the heads.I put the heads on got it tuned and it put down 396hp and 38xtq so what would you think? Nothing else changed except for heads.

 

SuperSlow....
As other experienced H/C owners-wrenchers have stated...don't get too excited and pull the heads just yet....

There are MANY reasons your car could be down on power. 1st things 1st....the TUNE is the most important factor in any given combo of mods. PERIOD. There are many things that can(and should) be tweaked to bring out every last drop of power.

I'm not saying that your tune is bad, just that even the best tunes require additional tweaking. As an example: I was running a well known H/C bolt on combo in my pig and could only muster 373/373, and was told it was the heads....the cam...the motor was a dog...blahblahblah. Went home with my tail between my legs and went to work on the basics. As stated by Brent,(though others may disagree with my results),the only change I made to my set up was a new chain and gearset....I went from 373 to 391. 18 rwhp from a chain swap. Imagine that....

I then re-tuned with the same tuner. He was able to get 415.4/405.2 through a 10 bolt. Added a 12 bolt to the car....redyno'd at 405/394. Same tuner made a few adjustments and got it back to 416.4/406.2......through the 12 bolt AND slicks.This was with a small cam(T1), AND..... TEA heads. Imagine THAT

With that said, go over your combo w/a fine tooth comb....you may find the problem is not the heads. Have you degree'd in the cam? Has it been cam doctor'd to insure it is what the cam card says it is? Is there a mile of slack in the chain? A/F?, timing?, TM? Is the cam matched to the heads? Too many variables to automatically assume TEA *****'d ya. Again, as stated by others(excluding Mr. Mods coming soon), TEA provides a QUALITY product at a FAIR price. Too many satisfied customers to prove otherwise(even for the haters). If after you've done your homework and have concluded it may be in the heads, I'm absolutely certain and willing to bet Brian/Brent will correct the problem(if indeed there is one).

In closeing, I'd like to say.....real world experience is where you'll find the truth....NOT the internet. There have been way too many magical H/C combo's out there of late that produce a gazillion rwhp for the vendor. Doesn't mean you will ever see it in your car. Do your homework. Learn why certain combo's make power while others fall short. I really believe that if you mythodically go over your current combo, you will find the missing power. Good luck

ne14a6t9......have you learned nothing since the last time we spoke?

 

I agree with LowETz 100%. You have a simple problem somewhere.

 

I wish i knew where.

 

i wish i knew where..

 

superslow did you get my pm

 

damn guys get some cutouts on them cars,

cut out ,pulley, ported tb up to or over 25-30 rwhp!

 

Ok guys, I am new here and I have read at least 4 different threads were someone (not naming names here) is always bashing TEA. I am an ex-mustang owner and I have seen the performance gains from TEA's Ford heads. I have respect for every Head porter sponcer on this sight (TEA, Absolute, PP, West Coast, MTI, etc......) I how ever do not run any of their heads on my car, I run my own Ported heads and this is why I have major respect for them all, It took me 30+ hours of porting (Yes I have Ported before) to get results that are slightly under most of these guys Stage 1 heads. I have yet to see a low dyno pull that can be traced back to a set of TEA heads.
Only pull your heads off and send them back to TEA as a very last resort, try tuning again and add the TB and Pulley, you will be right where you should be.

 

By the way LSx style heads are by no means ported in the same way as most other heads, one mistake can kill your flow, and TEA has had some of the highest flow numbers of all the top LS1 porters for a much lower price for years, way before the Judson port. Sorry guys I am just tired of hearing people bash sponcers that are proven performers.