Post up your dyno numbers with PP Heads..All Types
Post up your dyno numbers with PP Heads..All Types LQ9/LS6, 5.3, 5.7
Please post your mods and dyno numbers. We just installed a set and are curious how our numbers compare.
Tuned numbers preffered
Please post your mods and dyno numbers. We just installed a set and are curious how our numbers compare.
Tuned numbers preffered
Well, We installed the PP Stg 2 LS6 heads and a TR224 cam. It did 416 rwhp.
We just added the G5x3 from LG, and the car made 422. Both cams were tuned, and then pulled.
Just curious becasue this is a 6-Speed car with a stock rearend. People care making more power, cam only, with the G5x3.
I am confused as well.
BUT! We have 5 more sets to install, so maybe we can get some better/more diverse numbers.
All 5 are different setups BTW.
We just added the G5x3 from LG, and the car made 422. Both cams were tuned, and then pulled.
Just curious becasue this is a 6-Speed car with a stock rearend. People care making more power, cam only, with the G5x3.
I am confused as well.
BUT! We have 5 more sets to install, so maybe we can get some better/more diverse numbers.
All 5 are different setups BTW.
Check the sig for current numbers on the LS6 style. Before I ran the 5.3's and a TR220 cam. I made 416rwhp 392rwtq on stock tuning and a MAFT with that. I really would have expected more out of the car with the G5x3, there was someone on here not too long ago with a set of the LS6 styles and that cam in an auto and it put down some really good numbers. What year car? Does it have a LS6 intake? Cutout? What kind of headers?
btw, I installed both sets of heads and both cams myself and took them to a dyno, so these are numbers that didn't come from an install shop.
btw, I installed both sets of heads and both cams myself and took them to a dyno, so these are numbers that didn't come from an install shop.
Originally Posted by cracker
LQ9/LS6, 5.3, 5.7
Please post your mods and dyno numbers. We just installed a set and are curious how our numbers compare.
Tuned numbers preffered
Please post your mods and dyno numbers. We just installed a set and are curious how our numbers compare.
Tuned numbers preffered
Just wondering What are your numbers?
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Mine are in but waiting for my X-Pipe for my New C5 KOOKS Headers. My buddy has a GX3 Cam and Patriot 6.0 Liters and got 423 rwhp in his 6-speed.
I am at 343 RWHP & 363 RWTQ RIGHT NOW with my A4 with 3.42 gears and a Yank SS3600 TC.
My new changes are as follows: I incresed my Cam from a 224/224 .563/.563 114LSA to a Slightly Bigger Cam 228/228 .588/.588 114 lSA, Added KOOKS LT Headers and 3" Off Road X-pipe with no cats (I also was running no cats before anyway) , and the Patriot LQ9 (6.0 liter heads with 11:4:1 Compression). After seeing others numbers, When I dyno it next week, TC Unlocked, which is how I did my baseline pulls, I am excpecting in the 380's but HOPING for more
So Far, I just am not reading and seeing the Huge numbers from other people with these heads, they are good numbers, and acceptable for Stage II Heads and for the money, but I don't think i will be pulling 400+ in my auto.
I will let you know how it turns out. I still think these are very good heads. My buddy who already had good set of Stage 2 Heads replaced them with new 6.0 liter Patriots and got basically the exact same numbers as he did before (400 RWHP), so they are not in any way bad heads, just not Proving to be superior to other heads they compete against except for the lower pricing.
If I get good number I will write a GLOWING Report
I am at 343 RWHP & 363 RWTQ RIGHT NOW with my A4 with 3.42 gears and a Yank SS3600 TC.
My new changes are as follows: I incresed my Cam from a 224/224 .563/.563 114LSA to a Slightly Bigger Cam 228/228 .588/.588 114 lSA, Added KOOKS LT Headers and 3" Off Road X-pipe with no cats (I also was running no cats before anyway) , and the Patriot LQ9 (6.0 liter heads with 11:4:1 Compression). After seeing others numbers, When I dyno it next week, TC Unlocked, which is how I did my baseline pulls, I am excpecting in the 380's but HOPING for more
So Far, I just am not reading and seeing the Huge numbers from other people with these heads, they are good numbers, and acceptable for Stage II Heads and for the money, but I don't think i will be pulling 400+ in my auto.
I will let you know how it turns out. I still think these are very good heads. My buddy who already had good set of Stage 2 Heads replaced them with new 6.0 liter Patriots and got basically the exact same numbers as he did before (400 RWHP), so they are not in any way bad heads, just not Proving to be superior to other heads they compete against except for the lower pricing.
If I get good number I will write a GLOWING Report
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I did 414 with TEA heads and a 224 cam--
Now with LS6 stage 11s and the Magic stick am at 445
One small thing was I lost some low end power but at 5300 it skyrockets.
The 414 was also done on a dyno that show 5 more rwhp than the other one. So maybe fair to say:
414 vrs 450
Now with LS6 stage 11s and the Magic stick am at 445
One small thing was I lost some low end power but at 5300 it skyrockets.
The 414 was also done on a dyno that show 5 more rwhp than the other one. So maybe fair to say:
414 vrs 450
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We just added the G5x3 from LG, and the car made 422. Both cams were tuned, and then pulled.
Just curious becasue this is a 6-Speed car with a stock rearend. People care making more power, cam only, with the G5x3.
I/QUOTE]You only picked up 7 rwhp by going to the X3 over a 224? Something seems to be off somewhere. The last car with that set-up made 445 to the wheels with a A4 thru a 12 bolt. Any thoughts as to why it would be that low?
We just added the G5x3 from LG, and the car made 422. Both cams were tuned, and then pulled.
Just curious becasue this is a 6-Speed car with a stock rearend. People care making more power, cam only, with the G5x3.
I/QUOTE]You only picked up 7 rwhp by going to the X3 over a 224? Something seems to be off somewhere. The last car with that set-up made 445 to the wheels with a A4 thru a 12 bolt. Any thoughts as to why it would be that low?
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Beast Your number sound right, because my buddy put in the G5X3 Cam with his Patriots and perfectly tuned ran 422 or 423 RWHP, which is exactly what you are running. This was in a 2002 or 2003??? Z28 6 Speed.
Those numbers seem right on.
Those numbers seem right on.
Originally Posted by 2001 Red Coupe Bandit
Beast Your number sound right, because my buddy put in the G5X3 Cam with his Patriots and perfectly tuned ran 422 or 423 RWHP, which is exactly what you are running. This was in a 2002 or 2003??? Z28 6 Speed.
Those numbers seem right on.
Those numbers seem right on.
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If your signature doesn't show your mods. It is helpful to tell us what you have as it makes a huge difference. MN6's Dyno Higher, A4's dyno lower, especially with a Torque Converter.
I will do mine unlocked and then one run locked just to get the highest possible numbers, because that is what most places who want to move products do. High #'s Sell
I will do mine unlocked and then one run locked just to get the highest possible numbers, because that is what most places who want to move products do. High #'s Sell
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Originally Posted by 2001 Red Coupe Bandit
If your signature doesn't show your mods. It is helpful to tell us what you have as it makes a huge difference. MN6's Dyno Higher, A4's dyno lower, especially with a Torque Converter.
I will do mine unlocked and then one run locked just to get the highest possible numbers, because that is what most places who want to move products do. High #'s Sell
I will do mine unlocked and then one run locked just to get the highest possible numbers, because that is what most places who want to move products do. High #'s Sell
I guess you will make it down to Hallsville the 6th??
Does your arch rivals know what you are up to??
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Originally Posted by Wire Dog
Gary, were those your heads that I saw today over at RPM???
I guess you will make it down to Hallsville the 6th??
Does your arch rivals know what you are up to??
I guess you will make it down to Hallsville the 6th??
Does your arch rivals know what you are up to??
I will be running pretty fast but nowhere fast enough to be the King At Hallsville.
I am at 11.82 at 115 MPH with a Cam Only so we will see what happens
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It is my opinion that tuning locked is the correct way to tune. It give the A/F pump time to react properly and puts more load on the engine more like a 6 speed.
If an engine is properly tuned using a 6 speed, for air fuel, then do you think the tune would change if the transmission were changed to an A4 with a 4400 stall?
The answer is no. The requirements do not change with regard to the air/fuel or timing just because you tune it locked or unlocked, just as an engine tunes on an engine dyno does not require andifferent A4 tune or an M6 tune.
LG
If an engine is properly tuned using a 6 speed, for air fuel, then do you think the tune would change if the transmission were changed to an A4 with a 4400 stall?
The answer is no. The requirements do not change with regard to the air/fuel or timing just because you tune it locked or unlocked, just as an engine tunes on an engine dyno does not require andifferent A4 tune or an M6 tune.
LG
these were through the crappy/choking slp headers. i believe they could be alittle higher with a good set of lungs.
http://www.texas-speed.com/troy231_237.jpg
http://www.texas-speed.com/troy231_237.jpg
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DG Gordon,
Are you referring to the TSP 231/237 or G5X3 cam when talking about the magic cam? If not, what cam are you referring to?
Gary, Congrats, you are now a full fledged obsesssed LS1 gear head now that you have discoverd this site and have become a full fledged member!
Looking forward to hearing about your results. Good Luck! My BEAST 427 goes in for FLP's newest level V 4L65E tranny and tuning regarding WOT shifting this week!
Are you referring to the TSP 231/237 or G5X3 cam when talking about the magic cam? If not, what cam are you referring to?
Gary, Congrats, you are now a full fledged obsesssed LS1 gear head now that you have discoverd this site and have become a full fledged member!
Looking forward to hearing about your results. Good Luck! My BEAST 427 goes in for FLP's newest level V 4L65E tranny and tuning regarding WOT shifting this week!
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JOHN,
I agree 100% and obviously will probably doing fine tuning shift points come springtime. However, FLP did get a brand new tranny dyno (never heard of one until they told me about it) and its my understanding is that this dyno allows them to tune in the tranny shift points as if the car was being driven on the street. Only time will tell and if history repeats itself with the shifting problems i have had with this car i will then go to a stand alone t com computer which Cartek is using alot with success on the older stubborn 97 and 98 A4 C5s (like mine) that can be difficult to get dialed in at the high rpm WOT shift points and that LS1 edit does not seem to be able to satisfactorily address.
I agree 100% and obviously will probably doing fine tuning shift points come springtime. However, FLP did get a brand new tranny dyno (never heard of one until they told me about it) and its my understanding is that this dyno allows them to tune in the tranny shift points as if the car was being driven on the street. Only time will tell and if history repeats itself with the shifting problems i have had with this car i will then go to a stand alone t com computer which Cartek is using alot with success on the older stubborn 97 and 98 A4 C5s (like mine) that can be difficult to get dialed in at the high rpm WOT shift points and that LS1 edit does not seem to be able to satisfactorily address.
