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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 11:49 PM
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I am preparing to get a cam, and am looking into timing sets to replace the stock one as many have reccomended. I have looked at Rollermaster, JWIS, SLP, Comp, and Cloyes. They all look pretty much the same, except the Rollermaster is about half the price of the others... I am already short of money, so will Rollermaster do the trick, or is there something about it I don't know about? Thanks a lot!
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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We have a new double roller chain with needle bearings to get rid of the friction and keep the cam free.

I will get some photos tomorrow. It comes with it's own aluminum cam plate but everything rides on needle bearings.

I also have a double just like the Rollmaster if you want one without the bearings.

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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Would that be the one for $39.95? I think I'm looking for double roller instead. Post some pics nonetheless.
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I have the Rollermaster double chain in my car. I installed it 25K miles ago and when I checked it last week it was PERFECT (NO SLACK)!
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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Both of the chains that i am refering to are double roller chains complete witht he needle bearings and thrust plates. The Double chain with the thrust bearings is $239, and the double chain without the thrust bearings is $169.

Both high quality pieces and not on my web site.

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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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i have the rollmaster double, for 75 bucks you cant beat it. i'd recommend it to anyone.
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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Does the asp pulley work without clearancing it with the rollmaster double chain?
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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Does the asp pulley work without clearancing it with the rollmaster double chain?
some do, some dont. mine didnt have to me shimmed to fit, others have though.
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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some do, some dont. mine didnt have to me shimmed to fit, others have though.

Mine rubbed a slight bit (just enough to polish the pump face over 25K miles).......didn't hurt the pump at all.....so nothing big...

When I had it apart though, I turned the pulley down just enough to clear (5 mins and all good )
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How does the Cloyes timing set compare with the competition? Someone said they would be able to sell me theirs for $110. Or should I still go with the Rollermaster for $90. I can afford the extra $20, but is it really necessary?
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The cloyes is the single right?

Once you get away from the stock chain (which is junk IMO), pretty much all of them will get the job done. I personally just opt for a double over a single (unless the single was a POS) as it just makes me feel better at night.
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From Speed Inc.

"CLOYES TIMING SET
Adjustable from 0, 2, or 4 degrees advanced or retarded. Kit comes with precision machined heat treated gears and double roller chain for high performance reliability."

The pic next to it also shows that it is a double roller. Anyone else have any insight about it? Thanks!
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
I am preparing to get a cam, and am looking into timing sets to replace the stock one as many have reccomended. I have looked at Rollermaster, JWIS, SLP, Comp, and Cloyes. They all look pretty much the same, except the Rollermaster is about half the price of the others... I am already short of money, so will Rollermaster do the trick, or is there something about it I don't know about? Thanks a lot!
i say go for the Rollermaster ls1 heat-treated ,double-roller adjustable timing set i'v got it for 94.99 from TSP
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
From Speed Inc.

"CLOYES TIMING SET
Adjustable from 0, 2, or 4 degrees advanced or retarded. Kit comes with precision machined heat treated gears and double roller chain for high performance reliability."

The pic next to it also shows that it is a double roller. Anyone else have any insight about it? Thanks!

ohhhh....my bad......guess that one would also be good
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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Just remember, you get what you pay for.

There are two different Rollmaster timing sets out there. They all have the Rollmaster timing gears (single or double) which are made in Australia ... But ... One BIG difference:

Some have the better timing chain made by Iwis Ketten in Germany. It says "JWIS" on the chain.

The other has a chain (single or double) made in India. It says "Rolon" on the chain

Be advised!
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Originally Posted by Tin Indian
Just remember, you get what you pay for.

There are two different Rollmaster timing sets out there. They all have the Rollmaster timing gears (single or double) which are made in Australia ... But ... One BIG difference:

Some have the better timing chain made by Iwis Ketten in Germany. It says "JWIS" on the chain.

The other has a chain (single or double) made in India. It says "Rolon" on the chain

Be advised!
How can I be sure that I get the JWIS chain? Will the Rollermaster Double, adjustable, heat treated, from TSP for $93.99 have the JWIS chain? I don't want crap from India on my car
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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"How can I be sure that I get the JWIS chain? Will the Rollermaster Double, adjustable, heat treated, from TSP for $93.99 have the JWIS chain? I don't want crap from India on my car"
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When you talk to the folks you are ordering the chain from, you might want to have them take one out of stock and read the name printed on the sides of the chain links BEFORE you give them your credit card number.

Make sense?
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Originally Posted by Tin Indian
Just remember, you get what you pay for.

There are two different Rollmaster timing sets out there. They all have the Rollmaster timing gears (single or double) which are made in Australia ... But ... One BIG difference:

Some have the better timing chain made by Iwis Ketten in Germany. It says "JWIS" on the chain.

The other has a chain (single or double) made in India. It says "Rolon" on the chain

Be advised!
I wonder which one SDPC is selling?
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Originally Posted by Tin Indian
Just remember, you get what you pay for.

There are two different Rollmaster timing sets out there. They all have the Rollmaster timing gears (single or double) which are made in Australia ... But ... One BIG difference:

Some have the better timing chain made by Iwis Ketten in Germany. It says "JWIS" on the chain.

The other has a chain (single or double) made in India. It says "Rolon" on the chain

Be advised!
Well spoken Tin Indian! I second this . . . Whether or not you get a doulbe or single chain is not important, just make sure it's a JWIS chain!
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