dream ls_ block to take down a ford 460
09-16-2009, 06:42 AM
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Throw a set of forged rods and pistons in your motor and get a set of 317 heads. I would say turbo but you dont want to hack up the car so get a procharger and run some high boost. If you find a used kit I think $8000 is not out of the question, that should be good for 600-700 rwhp.
09-16-2009, 10:51 AM
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$8k won't get you very far starting from scratch on a Gen III/IV motor. Think about it, you need block, internals, sensors, covers gaskets, bolts etc, not to mention new Kmember fuel pump, PCM and all the other stuff you need just to get a LS based motor running in a '97 car. All the little stuff adds up, if you want to build a decent LS based motor from scratch it will cost you $15k+ easy. Add a few luxuries like bushed lifter bores, shaft rockers, aftermarket maincaps and you can be north of $20k before you know it.
You need to talk to Lloyd Elliot and built a stout Gen II motor. Plenty of LT1 guys going deep 9's NA on streetable setups. I think there are even a few H/C LT1s going 9's NA these days. The LT1 aftermarket is stronger than ever and can get you where you want to be with less than half the hassle.
You need to talk to Lloyd Elliot and built a stout Gen II motor. Plenty of LT1 guys going deep 9's NA on streetable setups. I think there are even a few H/C LT1s going 9's NA these days. The LT1 aftermarket is stronger than ever and can get you where you want to be with less than half the hassle.
09-16-2009, 11:42 AM
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sell the 97 and take the money and buy a car already built....ive seen 450rwhp cars sell for less than 10 grand...hell my buddy bought a cammed 98z for 6 grand that made 380 to the tire.......
also like to add i think this is a bullshit pointless thread...JMO
this site is starting to run over with kids here lately....
also like to add i think this is a bullshit pointless thread...JMO
this site is starting to run over with kids here lately....
09-16-2009, 11:48 AM
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$8,000 isn't gonna build you and engine that can do much of anything, its barely enough to build a complete long block of some kind.
$8,000....buy a stock LS1 engine, 383 stroker kit, L92 heads and an L76 intake and spray it with a 150 shot. You'll probably kill that 460 guy. Unless, like I said earlier, he really has a truely well built engine.
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09-16-2009, 04:21 PM
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my motor budge is 8000 dollor not the converson i will take care of the wiring sensors all of that little stuff off the budget. i want to build my car not buy one sorry i know budgets run over thats fine but i dont know much about this ls motors i come from old school blocks im sorry if im not sure about ever thing thats why i started this thread
09-16-2009, 04:40 PM
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$8k isn't even going to scratch the surface of a good motor. A LS7 crate motor is over $10k. Realistically for $8k you will be looking at a stock bottom end with a good heads/cam package. You might be able to build more motor than that but it won't go as far as a good LQ4/9 based heads/cam setup.
My advice would be throw a procharger on that '97 until you decide how fast you actually need to go.
My advice would be throw a procharger on that '97 until you decide how fast you actually need to go.
09-16-2009, 05:50 PM
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my motor budge is 8000 dollor not the converson i will take care of the wiring sensors all of that little stuff off the budget. i want to build my car not buy one sorry i know budgets run over thats fine but i dont know much about this ls motors i come from old school blocks im sorry if im not sure about ever thing thats why i started this thread
some of these guys with cam, bolt ons and tune are approaching 500rw with stock heads and ls3 intake.
a correctly spec'd cam for a l92 head engine will make more than enuff power.
spend some money on your suspension and maximize use of available hp
09-16-2009, 08:46 PM
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my motor budge is 8000 dollor not the converson i will take care of the wiring sensors all of that little stuff off the budget. i want to build my car not buy one sorry i know budgets run over thats fine but i dont know much about this ls motors i come from old school blocks im sorry if im not sure about ever thing thats why i started this thread
09-18-2009, 03:01 PM
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09-19-2009, 12:22 PM
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99% of people with high performance cars race ON THE STREET, so you're not alone.
$8,000 isn't gonna build you and engine that can do much of anything, its barely enough to build a complete long block of some kind.
$8,000....buy a stock LS1 engine, 383 stroker kit, L92 heads and an L76 intake and spray it with a 150 shot. You'll probably kill that 460 guy. Unless, like I said earlier, he really has a truely well built engine.
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$8,000 isn't gonna build you and engine that can do much of anything, its barely enough to build a complete long block of some kind.
$8,000....buy a stock LS1 engine, 383 stroker kit, L92 heads and an L76 intake and spray it with a 150 shot. You'll probably kill that 460 guy. Unless, like I said earlier, he really has a truely well built engine.
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Plus, $8K will easily get you a built short block plus killer heads and intake. SDPC has 416 cube short blocks for $4,600. Add some ported L92 heads, proper cam, and intake and you'll be rockin'!!
09-19-2009, 01:51 PM
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Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you want to run nitrous?
Trying to beat a 460+ci Fox mustang with a "budget LSx" can be one hell of a challenge, especially when you start turning down options like nitrous. Bang-for-the-buck, that would be your best route if you really want to beat this guy.
I'm just curious why you're so opposed to it.
Trying to beat a 460+ci Fox mustang with a "budget LSx" can be one hell of a challenge, especially when you start turning down options like nitrous. Bang-for-the-buck, that would be your best route if you really want to beat this guy.
I'm just curious why you're so opposed to it.
10-09-2009, 09:37 AM
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I know this is LS1Tech but why not fight fire with fire. For your $8000 or so, you can likely score a 540 BBC that will not have too much trouble dispatching a 460 Ford, even if stroked and poked bigger. If you dig deeper in the wallet, you could try a low deck 582. Either will be challanging to install but so was the 460 in the Fox.
460 Fords can obtain well over 600 hp - like LS1 they (and BBC) are dependent on good heads and cam selection. There are many good head options out for older iron these days - including AFR and Trick Flow.
460 Fords can obtain well over 600 hp - like LS1 they (and BBC) are dependent on good heads and cam selection. There are many good head options out for older iron these days - including AFR and Trick Flow.
