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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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How much power is a full point of compression worth in a real world application. For example:

A 450rwhp H/C car at 11:1 would be a ___ rwhp car at 12:1? 13:1?
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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3-4% is the rule of thumb I have always used.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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3-4% is the rule of thumb I have always used.
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What if your going the other way and you want to find out how much power a motor is down?

My leakdown tests showed as high as 45% leakdown, considering an average leakdown of 25-30%.

How much would a 500 RWHP N/A motor be down?
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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Or going the other way on purpose...?? But adding cubes.. Going from a stock compression 346ci to a 8.5:1 383ci motor..??? Im not really worried about losing the power cause im adding more boost... just wondering.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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I have been wondering the same thing. a friend of mine blew his motor up and went from stock bore 11.5-1 comp, to 60 over flat top (not sure of what final comp. ratio he ended up with ) with the same set of heads and everything. the heads were shaved a little im sure after the blow up but not sure how much. i was wondering which one would make more power? does anybody know?
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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Um, adding boost completely screws up any calculations anyone could hope to make about hp to compression ratio calculations.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:38 AM
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If the cam is not too large for the original compression then theoretically, according to D.Vizard How to Build Horsepower Vol. 1 the gain is

10:1 -> 11:1 1.5%
11:1 -> 12:1 1.3%
12:1 -> 13:1 1.2%

A 450rwhp 346 has quite a radical cam so the suggested 3-4% could probably be realized going from 11:1 to 12:1 due to getting the dynamic compression better. No personal experience about this though.
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Car Craft tested this idea and proved it was 3-4% per point, not less than 3% in the 9-12:1 range
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Can you tell how much compression you're down by a leakdown test?

Then figure how much HP you're down?
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