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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Still tuning the car. So idle is still rough. But have been hearing a knock from the engine. I first thought it was my exhaust hitting. But can't find anything wrong. I hope its not the engine.

When I bring the idle up, I can't hear it. So not sure it is the engine. but it sounds nasty.

Going to talk to the builder tomorrow.

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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Drain the oil, see if there is anything in there that's not supposed to be (ie metallic flakes).
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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Couldnt hear anything out of your video except the s/c...damn, you have luck like I do, that car just came out of the shop...I feel your pain bro.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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I didn't notice anything in the oil or on the plug.

Now that it is tuned better, the engine doesn't shake as much at idle.

I don't hear it anymore. So maybe it was something hitting. :dunno:
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Sounds like procharged power to me!
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Spoke to soon. Still hear it.

Car still runs great. Above idle I cannot not hear it.
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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My cam only LS1 was doing the same thing. Wasn't pulling any timing and still ran strong so I ignored it for too long. Ended up being the cam bolts had backed out and the cam was walking. Tore up the cam and lifters and hopefully nothing else, still under the knife. If it's like mine it will get progressively worse.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Did the sound change when you rev'd the engine?
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Jacked the car up. The sound seems to be coming from the rear of the engine near the converter.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Check your converter bolts to the flexplate.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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They all seem to be tight.

Once I get the idle dialed in, I won't even hear it.

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looks like it's coming from front or the engine. Something is hitting the timing cover may be
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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CJ came down and helped me try to pinpoint the sound.
He couldn't, so I don't fee so bad.

We started eliminating things. We think the rough idle from the tune is causing the flywheel to make noise. And it sounded alot louder after unbolting the TC from the flywheel.

The engine builder doesn't think its the motor and also thought it was the flywheel.

When the idle is smooth, I don't hear it. So I am not going to worry about it after I get it all tuned up.

Knock from under

Flywheel unbolted from TC
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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A little more research and some say that the ARP Flywheel bolts won't tighten down enough on the stock flexplate. And I would need to buy ARP flexplate bolts. Opps

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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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That sounds like a good bet
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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with loose Tc bolts the noise normally goes away when in gear and just above idle
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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try the arp bolts. , whats your motor mounts look like?
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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You may have a rod hitting the windage tray if its stroked it needs to be spaced to clear.
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Motor mounts are poly are fairly brand new.

Builder verified the tray is spaced.

So I hope its the flexplate bolts. Last engine didn't have them. This new one does.
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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possibly piston slap at idle? My import has slap at idle and right around 3000rpm with no load, but under load she purrs like a kitten. Guess it's a harmonic thing... dunno about on a V8, but on the 4bangers, i dont worry much about slap that low since most of the big pulls are done from 6-10k rpm.
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