Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Cam 4 me?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 01:02 AM
  #1  
Turb0Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
Default Cam 4 me?

I have been looking at cams packages for my car and have no clue what to pick
Stock 2000 M6 Z28 My mods are SPL lid, Hooker long tubes, ORY dumped no cats, ported aluminum weiand ls6 intake. ported stock TP, W255 fuel pump with hot wire kit, Spec 3+ clutch, 4.10 gears, BMR LCA's, BMR adjustable panhard bar, SLP SFC and a 150 shot. I also have a HTP with wideband o2 and a good tunner.

My goal is get close to 500 N/A hp and into the mid 11's N/A. And still be able to spray 150 shot
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 01:40 AM
  #2  
Zmg00camaross's Avatar
10 Second Club
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,069
Likes: 51
From: Missouri
Default

do you drive on the street a lot. and 500 n/a would be max effort on a 346 stock bottom end. heads and max effort cam would get you close. lets go with the goal of mid 11s and not dyno numbers. Then i would think tsp torquer 3 cam or ms3 cam would get you there. and 10s with the spray with correct suspension. also thunder racing has some track proven cams.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 01:52 AM
  #3  
Turb0Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
Default

Its a weekend and track car. I dont car how it drives on the street.
i also have a smouth below and 85mm SLP MAF. Is the MS3 to big?
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 02:19 AM
  #4  
Zmg00camaross's Avatar
10 Second Club
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,069
Likes: 51
From: Missouri
Default

nope not to me, my buddy has it and can daily drive it if he wanted. ppl run the trex cam and dd. but the ms3 would do great on the spray. and as long as you can put the power down you would hit your track goal. again my buddys car has long tubes and corsa exhaust, mti lid, and ms3 cam package dyno a 420 rwhp, forgot torque. had a 2.1 60 ft, but still ran a 12.6 at 116 mph so the powers there. he is on stock clutch and 10 bolt 3.42s
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 03:03 PM
  #5  
Turb0Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
Default

i need to get my 60's down. i am around 1.7 to 2.2 now
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 03:16 PM
  #6  
FiFdYnUtz's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 672
Likes: 1
From: Arizona
Default

you arent going to make 500hp na without a lot of money and research, i would shoot for 425ish cam only (MAYBE) and run something like the ms3, ms4, trex, polluter, etc all similar cams
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 07:57 PM
  #7  
DVS99TRANS's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,169
Likes: 1
From: E City,NC & Newark,DE
Default

If you want 500whp on the stock motor, you should give a mikey @ Rapid Motorsports a shout. They have hit over 500whp on the stock motor quite a bit, but it's still no easy feat to be done. You will need a ported FAST92, get rid of those Hooker LTs for a set of ARHs or Kooks dumped, and more than likely a set of CNC'd TFS heads with a big cam. The MS3 is a good cam (hell I have it in my 408) and makes really good power. But if you see the #'s in my sig for my 408. It has a MS3 with PRC heads which is technically a mild head/cam for it and still barely cracked 500whp uncorrected with full bolt-ons (of course) other than an electric water pump. You can imagine what more you'll have to push out of the stock 346 to make the same #'s. And at that power level, you better be looking at a rear with 4.10s in the 10bolt and traction to shatter that thing. Not to say you can't do it, but it definitely isn't easy. Your going to need a really good tuner also.
Mike

Last edited by DVS99TRANS; Oct 27, 2009 at 07:59 PM. Reason: adding
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2009 | 03:35 PM
  #8  
Turb0Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
Default

if i get the TSP cam pakage with MS4 what springs should i get? will i be ok with the stock rockers and lifters
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 29, 2009 | 04:11 PM
  #9  
223HAWK's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,283
Likes: 1
From: Lake of the Ozarks, MO
Default

Iv got the MS4, Made 424/371 on a Dyno Jet, 406/35? something idk.. But anyway, Iv got a FAST90/90 42lb injectors, Stock LS6 Heads, Patroit Gold Springs, 7.4 Pushrods, Yella Terra 1.7 Rockers..(some say u need them some say you dont..if you have the extra cash buy good rockers)

Youll want injectors if you go very big..you will be lean up top and youll burn it up..

Stock 6 speed
Moster Stage 3
10 bolt with 4:10s..but I dont count on it lasting if I put Drag Radials on it..

I daily drove my car for a few weeks after I got it put in..Has a bit of a surge at 1500-1650 rpms in at like 55 or 60 mph.. or if Im crusing in first at those RPMs..Not to bad on gas..Havent checked it but I didnt buy the turd for gas mileage..Its deff. all top end power..

I was hoping for high 11s with mine..havent had a change to run it..its FAWKIN RAINED FOR 3 WEEKS


How many miles are on your car? I reused my stock lifters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EHixwbA468
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2009 | 04:38 PM
  #10  
Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.'s Avatar
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,399
Likes: 5
From: Lubbock, Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Turb0Z28
if i get the TSP cam pakage with MS4 what springs should i get? will i be ok with the stock rockers and lifters
Our standard PRC dual valve spring kit will work with the MS4. With that said, our PRC EHT .675" lift dual spring kit is only $50 more, and it has double the spring life of the standard dual spring kit! It will not only give you a little more room for lift, but it will also go more miles before you have to worry with swapping them out.

The stock rockers are fine, but it would not hurt to do the trunion upgrade that we offer from Comp Cams. This will replace the center roller portion with HD components, and you'll still retain the lighter factory rocker bodies. The stock lifters will work just fine, unless they're super high mileage (i.e. 100,000+ miles). It's not that they won't work if they're over that mileage, but they're more prone to having a collapsed lifter. For a cam-only swap, you won't have access to the lifters. You'll have to pull the heads to swap them out, and you don't have to remove the heads for a cam-only swap.

Let us know if we can help out. We stock our most popular camshafts, as well as both dual valve spring kits. We offer a complete line of the additional parts to consider when doing a cam swap, such as a timing chain or set and a ported LS6 oil pump.

Trevor
Texas Speed & Performance
__________________
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2009 | 09:29 PM
  #11  
zdawg28's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX
Default

Man you need to get a solid roller cam setup and quite the mickey mouse hydraulic roller junk...Someone who knows about cams and LS1s can get you alot more power out of something like that.

And what ever you do if you run over .600" lift or have aggressive lobes BUY NEW ROCKERS!! (Or buy the trunion pieces from Trevor at TSP) Stock ones are junk, GM service bulletins posted will confirm they're turds.

Also your intake is worthless for power, beware of what you buy!...

Goodluck on your mission, best of luck!
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 10:00 AM
  #12  
rjensen's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
From: chicago, il
Default

xr265hr 54-424-11 from comp cams will almost get you to 400hp.forget the cam and get a used set of better flowing heads.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:06 AM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE