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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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you could add some 1.8 ratio rockers with that ls6 cam and make good power.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Look into the cheatr and mti stealth cam.

Stock like idle but 30rwhp more than the ls1 cam.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 00sscamaro4
im pretty sure 243 only came on 01to04 zo6 vettes an 05-06 gtos just not with sodium filled exhaust valves and the cts-v i have a full ls6 and mine are 243s my neighobr has a 04 gto an the heads on that are 241s so i dont think your heads are 243s
The 01 LS6 has the same valves and cam as the 05/06 GTO's. The 02/04 LS6 engine (heads) have the hollow and sodium valves and the bigger cam.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 02:11 AM
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I think he might be thinking he has an LS6 intake on his 02' not the heads. Sorry if someone had already mentioned that.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 02:56 AM
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Great cam imo for what your doing.. My 01 ss dynoed 392 386 torque with just that lts,udp,85 naf and lid setup, and went 11.8 @120
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 03:56 AM
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I got an 03 Zo6 cam and heads and put it on after I had stock heads and the cam in sig (haven't had time to update) and although the sig cam was bigger, the ls6 cam/heads were so much better matched that the car ran A LOT better, and faster (and no, it was NOT my imagination).

Get the cam, and if you can find a cheap set of 243 heads get them and put them on. The tuning will be much easier (stock Zo6 flash) and it will idle/drive like stock because it IS stock - just from a better car.

If you get a cam that's 'too small' according to some, you will never know the difference and enjoy it. But if you get a cam that's too big for your needs, then you will notice it immediately and be very ... grumpy ...
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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I was mistaken about the heads, they are 241's, but I do have the LS6 intake. I'm thinking that a decently priced set of 243 heads and the LS6 cam is the way I want to go based on all the feedback. I have an old 440 6pak mopar for a hotrod and you can count everytime it fires, I dont want that on the TA. Thanks again for all the input. I'll update later on this winter once I can do the swap.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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I swapped my factory ls6 cam for a tr224, and I am getting better mileage. That could be due to my driving style, and how the z06 is geared. The lope/shake over the ls6 cam is not really noticeable, but the exhaust note sounds 200% better.

On a side note....I have a 71 r/t challenger. I didn't think there were any other mopar guys blasphemous enough to own an ls car
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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What kind of tuning did you have to do for the TR224? Thats my biggest concern with going to a slightly larger cam over a stock performance cam like the ZO6. I can send my ECM off to the lower 48 for a reflash, if I can find a place to do it.
My Dodge is a '70. Took about 4 years to restore and a lot of cash. ITs a blast to drive, it'll pass everythign but a gas station. I like the '71's as well, neat looking grill in those. Pm me some pics.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Went with take off ls6 parts and my results are in my sig. Full weight car, no tricks.. just drove it to the track on the stock ss wheels with nitto dr's, knocked out an 11 second pass and drove home. My car only has 35k miles on it and it also has a fast 78mm manifold, if those are factors or not I couldn't say for sure.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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I have the z06 pkg to on my ws6.
I'd say this it's faster than a loud *** car with headers and a loudmouth.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Quick update, I've swapped out for a set of 243 heads, double roller timing setup, new oil pump, LS6 valley cover, and I thought I had an LS6 cam, but now I've found out I got screwed. I hope to find an '02+ LS6 cam, if not, then I'm looking hard at the TR224 114LSA. More info to follow...........................
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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I put in the LS6 cam - it's VERY mild. You cannot tell it from stock F body at idle. It has slightly more power.

Personally, I would go a little bigger next time. By all accounts, duration of 224 will still have excellent manners.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 12:32 AM
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does any one know if i could run this cam on a stockish ls4? comes with 243 heads.but has DOD and wanna keep it. what do you guys think?
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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I'm sure most that are telling you it is a waste of time and money (ls6 parts are cheap, so I don't see this arguement) have not done it themselves so just think about that before their opinion weighs too heavy on you. I swapped over my ls6 cam and springs, hell even the push rods (I know they are the same length, they just had less miles and were just sitting there) and I love it. Best of all it cost me NOTHING other than gaskets and crank bolt. I used the money I saved up put in a new timing chain and get a good oil pump. Seems to have a little more pull up top and gets the same fuel mileage and it sounds exactly the same (accept when I cranked it the first time after the battery was disconnect, it loped like hell, i thought i left a plug wire off or something, but it cleared up in like 30 secs.). Another good aspect, just put on some ls6 springs and get some ls7 lifters if you are taking the heads off and your valvetrain should last you the life of the motor.
If I had it to do again I would do it in a heart beat. Could just be because I am one of those who like modding cars just to be turning wrenches. I liked doing the cam swap, it was fun. Do the ls6 cam, from what you are looking to get out of it, it looks like you won't regret it. I don't.
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dhutch
Quick update, I've swapped out for a set of 243 heads, double roller timing setup, new oil pump, LS6 valley cover, and I thought I had an LS6 cam, but now I've found out I got screwed. I hope to find an '02+ LS6 cam, if not, then I'm looking hard at the TR224 114LSA. More info to follow...........................
You can get the 224r cam with 116 lobe sep which will keep the car sounding very close to stock(almost unable to notice that theres a cam) I am on my second ls6 setup. I had a 98z 6speed with ls6 crate, long tubes and hooker catback, a lid, and thats about it. It put out 390rwhp on a mustang dyno and was great to drive. Economy was good, power was amazing and it drove like stock till you put your foot in it. Dyno numbers obviously arent everything...its how fast it gets down the 1320!
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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i wouldnt waste my time with anything below something like the tr224. just a waste of money imo unless you had to pass emissions or something...
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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I understand your tuning dilema. Just get a mail order, mine works Great, TSP mail order tunes work fine, I know several cars in town that are daily driven and cammed on mail orders.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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My buddy with a 02 M6 ws6 put the ls6 cam in his car and complains to me every single day when i see him at the gym. His car dyno'd 330 with that cam and full boltons. The hours doing the swap is not going to be worth the 6.5HP your going to pick up. Im putting a cam in his car in the spring.
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Originally Posted by FormulaWs666
My buddy with a 02 M6 ws6 put the ls6 cam in his car and complains to me every single day when i see him at the gym. His car dyno'd 330 with that cam and full boltons. The hours doing the swap is not going to be worth the 6.5HP your going to pick up. Im putting a cam in his car in the spring.
All I have is Ls6 Cam+ 243 heads+Ls6 intake +underdrive pulley + 342 gear+ stock tune. MY CAR IS WAYYY FASTER THAN IT WAS. Don't know about his.
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