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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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My ls1 has a torquer 2 cam, with 130# beehive springs, and upgraded pushrods. The valvetrain ticks a good bit, the quietest I've ever heard it is always right after I put new oil in it.

I think there may be a minor exhaust leak too, but I'm interested in knowing if there's anyway to make the valvetrain of a cammed car quieter?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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These engines just have noisy valve trains.

Ever look at a G8? They have an insulated intake cover, then the entire beauty cover that you see when you pop the hood has the another layer of noise barrier.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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So you're saying put a g8 engine cover on it

Prolly doesn't fit
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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best thing u can do is put some preload on your lifters
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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It's a result of higher springloads, aluminum heads, thinner wall exhaust, and more aggressive cam rates that cause you to be able to hear the valves slamming shut.
You can always try some sound deadener on the valve cover to quiet things down a little also, check you exhaust for any leaks.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Or just turn up your radio, roll the windows down, or add a loud exhaust.

I get tired of the valvetrain noise too, but it doesn't bother me at WOT.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Mines get sounds noisy when I'm next to another car. The way to solve the problem is check the pushrods see if you can go down. My tuner had 7.4 hardened after my H/C/I swap and it was very noisy but he told me when I got it if it doesn't calm down any after that then let him know and he will change them to 7.35 cause he said it was very very close. So the noise didn't stop so I he changed them to 7.35 and it calm down the ticking alot. Another way is to drive fast and past everything and put a loud exhaust system on so it can talk to you. lol
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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I gave one lifter that is making a lot of noise. I was told you can put cadillac lifters in that are better than stock but still cheaper that aftermarket ones. Does anyone know the part nummber to them. It has had a cam swap but not sure what cam. It was done before I bought it.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by airattack111
My ls1 has a torquer 2 cam, with 130# beehive springs, and upgraded pushrods. The valvetrain ticks a good bit, the quietest I've ever heard it is always right after I put new oil in it.

I think there may be a minor exhaust leak too, but I'm interested in knowing if there's anyway to make the valvetrain of a cammed car quieter?
I've got that same cam, 918 beehives, and Comp 7955 (7.4") pushrods and no noise... Are you sure you're not hearing the exhaust leak?
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I've got that same cam, 918 beehives, and Comp 7955 (7.4") pushrods and no noise... Are you sure you're not hearing the exhaust leak?
You're probably not hearing it because of the aluminum intake manifold helps to quiet it down compaired to the composite (plastic) factory intake manifolds. Even worse than that is the FAST intake which you hear not only the valvetrain, but also the injectors because of the intake.

GM noticed this and intentionally put a layer of insulation on the ls2 intake if I remember correctly. I'm planning on putting a layer of sound deadener on my FAST to see what it does. Putting sound deadener on the valve covers, along with shorter pushrods helped considerably.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
GM noticed this and intentionally put a layer of insulation on the ls2 intake if I remember correctly.
They have an isnsulation layer on the LS2, and on the LS3 they added more underneath the corvette beauty covers too. My LS2 covers dont have any.

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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
They have an isnsulation layer on the LS2, and on the LS3 they added more underneath the corvette beauty covers too. My LS2 covers dont have any.

It says a lot when GM went the extra mile to try and quiet down the apparent sound of the motor vavletrain.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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How would shorter pushrods quiet it down? Shorter push rods yield a lower preload which would make things even louder. Am I not thinking this through correctly?
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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My tuner had 7.4 hardened after my H/C/I swap and it was very noisy but he told me when I got it if it doesn't calm down any after that then let him know and he will change them to 7.35 cause he said it was very very close.
Is it possible you have the PR lengths backwards? Going to longer pushrods should add pre-load to calm down the noise. Going to shorter rods will result in less preload.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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I was going to say the same. Longer for less noise
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Well to everyone who oppose you yall can take it for what it's worth but, when I had the 7.4 you could hear the noise with the hood closed standing next to the car and once he changed them to 7.35 you can't hear it standing next to the car but when, I'm parked next to a car or driving next to a car you can hear the sewing machine. My heads where ported and milled and I'm not for sure what gaskets he used. All in all it quieted mine down, if you have a 100 laying around and you do it yourself it may be worth a try IMO.
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Pushrod length should not be a guessing game. The only way to properly select a pushrod length is using an adjustable pushrod to observe the rocker arm contact on the valve stem. I dare say a lot of valvetrain failures could be prevented by proper geometry measurements and parts selection. Instead, the rocker arm or lifter manufacturer gets blasted on the forums. I would shy away from a mechanic that is just experimenting with pushrod lengths at your expense. A long term affect can be premature failure of valve guides due to extra valve stem side loading.
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If the pushrod is too long, you'll actually bottom out the lifter as the lifter starts to rise on the cam lobe. It's a hydraulic lifter, so it's going to compress some under load. If the pushrod is too long, you run the risk of it bottoming out.
Just like stated above, pushrods shouldn't be a guess, they should be measured. If you're using stock rockers you don't have to worry about geometry because the pushrods won't change that.
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Mine makes some noise... thought is was just short rods but I guess it is normal with springs and a cam. Just live with the Singer LOL
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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what grade oil you running puttin that extra pressure in the valve train with to thin oil may make more noise i may be wrong just a thought
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