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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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I am going to have a set of stock LS1 cut 30 thousandths and install a Comp 216/220 cam. Do I need shorter pushrods? Will I have trouble with the intake? Thanks alot.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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You will need pushrods .030 shorter than your stock pushrods. The amount you shave off the head, the same amount must be taken off the pushrods.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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If the base circle of that cam is smaller, you will not need to use shorter pushrods. Call the vendor you bought the cam from.
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If you take 30 off the heads, and the cam base circle is 30 under the you just use 7.400 pushrods (stock length) If the cam is a standard base circle then you would go with a 7.350 push rod, and shim up the rocker for proper lifter preload.
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Originally Posted by strokedls1
If you take 30 off the heads, and the cam base circle is 30 under the you just use 7.400 pushrods (stock length) If the cam is a standard base circle then you would go with a 7.350 push rod, and shim up the rocker for proper lifter preload.

What happens if you don't have enough lifter preload?
I measured preload on a bone stock 98 and got .150"
That seems very excessive.
Is there some reason why the LS1 lifter needs this much?
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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most cams have a 0.030" smaller base circle which would make up for the 0.030" mill. My TR224 was an example of this.
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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What about a TR230/224.
stock heads, stock PR right?
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by killer01ws6
What about a TR230/224.
stock heads, stock PR right?
stock lenth is fine for that cam and stock heads

to the poster of this thread if you find out your base circle of you cam is too big, I have some hardened pushrods for sale 7.25 in lenth PM me
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by killer01ws6
What about a TR230/224.
stock heads, stock PR right?
Well, get a set of Thunder Racing / Comp Cams 7.40" hardened rods. They are actually .015" longer than stock. [Stock rods are actually 7.385" long].

That will put you within about .010" - .015" of the stock spec with your non-milled heads and aftermarket cam..... No problem at all.
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Originally Posted by Tin Indian
Well, get a set of Thunder Racing / Comp Cams 7.40" hardened rods. They are actually .015" longer than stock. [Stock rods are actually 7.385" long].

That will put you within about .010" - .015" of the stock spec with your non-milled heads and aftermarket cam..... No problem at all.
What if I have already got a set of molly 7.40s coming( from a board member)
new in box... Do i need to sell them and get a set from TR??

Man I hate when I should have asked before I buy
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 04:23 PM
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Killer ...

I think your hardened pushrods are more than likely made by Comp Cams.

Get a set of calipers and mic them yourself. If you can't get a mic, any machine shop will mic one of your stock rods and one of your new rods for free.

I will bet your new rods are .015" (15 thousands) longer than the stockers.

Ron,
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Originally Posted by white2001s10
What happens if you don't have enough lifter preload?
I measured preload on a bone stock 98 and got .150"
That seems very excessive.
Is there some reason why the LS1 lifter needs this much?
Just testing to see if my post is invisable.
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Originally Posted by white2001s10
Just testing to see if my post is invisable.
My suspicions are confirmed. Oh well, at least I can see it.
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Originally Posted by white2001s10
What happens if you don't have enough lifter preload?
I measured preload on a bone stock 98 and got .150"
That seems very excessive.
Is there some reason why the LS1 lifter needs this much?
Ron I was hoping to get some input about your opinion on this, but any others are welcome as well.
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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Did someone hear something??









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I don't know the answer on preload....
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Originally Posted by Tin Indian
Killer ...

I think your hardened pushrods are more than likely made by Comp Cams.

Get a set of calipers and mic them yourself. If you can't get a mic, any machine shop will mic one of your stock rods and one of your new rods for free.

I will bet your new rods are .015" (15 thousands) longer than the stockers.

Ron,
Well My pushrods came in today,
they are manleys, 7.40 #4130 swedged end, proseries..

SO are these true 7.40 and will they be good with my TR230.

Thanks,

Pete
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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You just need to put them in and see how many turns it takes to get 22 ftlb. The stock lifters use a lot of preload, but most after market require only 1/4 to 1/2 turn for proper preload. Contact the manufactuer if you want exact preload specs.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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Like I said, put a mic on one of them along with one of your stock rods and see what the difference is.

Really very simple indeed. No mic? ... Any machine shop will do it. Takes about a minute.
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