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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Are any of you guys running the Patriot cam? If so, how do you like it? Any dyno numbers? Also, does anyone know how aggressive the ramp rate is on it? Or what the duration is at .006?
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Patriot cams aren't very good.

Give Geoff @ EPS a call about custom grinding you a cam. You'll pay a few dollars more but the results will be worth it.

http://www.engpwrsys.com/
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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I have the 226 cam and love it, granted I'll be going bigger soon. I don't have any dyno numbers but it rolled right there with a car that trapped 118.
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How aggressive are you looking at going? My Stage 3 cam is quite aggressive, but also very streetable. Even out here in Los Angeles traffic, I don't have any problems with the car. I've put this cam in a few cars, all cam only with supporting mods (Long Tubes, Exhaust, Lid, Intake, Etc.) and they have all made excellent power.

My own personal car is a 2001 SS M6 and it made 427rwhp with untouched 241 heads, LS6 intake and a decent tune.

http://www.zenithmotorsports.com/zmsstage3camshaft.aspx

Let me know if your interested!
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my buddy may have his patriot 226-226 forsale pm me if you want to know more.
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Originally Posted by Mike@ZMS
How aggressive are you looking at going? My Stage 3 cam is quite aggressive, but also very streetable. Even out here in Los Angeles traffic, I don't have any problems with the car. I've put this cam in a few cars, all cam only with supporting mods (Long Tubes, Exhaust, Lid, Intake, Etc.) and they have all made excellent power.

My own personal car is a 2001 SS M6 and it made 427rwhp with untouched 241 heads, LS6 intake and a decent tune.

http://www.zenithmotorsports.com/zmsstage3camshaft.aspx

Let me know if your interested!
Whats the specs on that cam? Im intrested.
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Originally Posted by 1979rs/z28
Whats the specs on that cam? Im intrested.
We dont give the specs out until you buy it, but once you purchase we give you a full cam card so you can install it properly.

I can say the specs are in the mid 230's on the intake and the low 240's on the exhaust. Lift is a shade over .600.
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Originally Posted by Mike@ZMS
How aggressive are you looking at going? My Stage 3 cam is quite aggressive, but also very streetable. Even out here in Los Angeles traffic, I don't have any problems with the car. I've put this cam in a few cars, all cam only with supporting mods (Long Tubes, Exhaust, Lid, Intake, Etc.) and they have all made excellent power.

My own personal car is a 2001 SS M6 and it made 427rwhp with untouched 241 heads, LS6 intake and a decent tune.

http://www.zenithmotorsports.com/zmsstage3camshaft.aspx

Let me know if your interested!
That looks like a really good cam! I'm actually putting it in a 5.3L RCSB so that might be a little on the big side...

Anyway thanks for the offer but I ended up buying a used cam from the classifieds.. XE-R 224/232 .581/.595 114
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Originally Posted by Mike@ZMS
We dont give the specs out until you buy it, but once you purchase we give you a full cam card so you can install it properly.

I can say the specs are in the mid 230's on the intake and the low 240's on the exhaust. Lift is a shade over .600.
Dont see very many ppl buying a cam w/o reading the specs first.....whats the big hush hush for? soon as somone buys it and u give them the card words going to get out..
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Originally Posted by LS1FREEK
Are any of you guys running the Patriot cam? If so, how do you like it? Any dyno numbers? Also, does anyone know how aggressive the ramp rate is on it? Or what the duration is at .006?
Originally Posted by Damian
Patriot cams aren't very good.

Give Geoff @ EPS a call about custom grinding you a cam. You'll pay a few dollars more but the results will be worth it.

http://www.engpwrsys.com/
I have the patriot 225/229 cam and to be honest I wish I would have went with something more aggressive. I made 409rwhp 392rwtq SAE Smoothing 5. (dyno jet)

Originally Posted by Mike@ZMS
How aggressive are you looking at going? My Stage 3 cam is quite aggressive, but also very streetable. Even out here in Los Angeles traffic, I don't have any problems with the car. I've put this cam in a few cars, all cam only with supporting mods (Long Tubes, Exhaust, Lid, Intake, Etc.) and they have all made excellent power.

My own personal car is a 2001 SS M6 and it made 427rwhp with untouched 241 heads, LS6 intake and a decent tune.

http://www.zenithmotorsports.com/zmsstage3camshaft.aspx

Let me know if your interested!

Would you have any idea if someone would have to flycut with 243 heads that are 61cc with that cam?
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Would you have any idea if someone would have to flycut with 243 heads that are 61cc with that cam?
Flycutting is a possibility, but I think you would be fine. On stock 241/243 heads with stock thickness gaskets, they are fine with plenty of valve clearance.

The lift on my cam is .600/.615. I have had excellent luck with the new revisions of the Comp 918 springs on this setup with no sign of valve-float or PTV clearance issues even all the way out to 6800rpm.
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Originally Posted by Mike@ZMS
Flycutting is a possibility, but I think you would be fine. On stock 241/243 heads with stock thickness gaskets, they are fine with plenty of valve clearance.

The lift on my cam is .600/.615. I have had excellent luck with the new revisions of the Comp 918 springs on this setup with no sign of valve-float or PTV clearance issues even all the way out to 6800rpm.


I have the TSP PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads milled to 61cc.
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Originally Posted by 1999FirehawkLS1
Dont see very many ppl buying a cam w/o reading the specs first.....whats the big hush hush for? soon as somone buys it and u give them the card words going to get out..
I don't give the cam spec's out, but I do offer a money back guarantee if it doesn't perform as promised to LS1tech members.

And as far as the cam card goes, I do send it with my cams, but I respectfully request that my customers don't post the specs.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz28
I have the TSP PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads milled to 61cc.
There is a possibility of needing to flycut the pistons. Your heads are milled quite a bit. I would obviously advise you to check and double check all clearances and everything before running it.

Thats not a question I can just blindly answer one way or the other to. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Mike@ZMS
There is a possibility of needing to flycut the pistons. Your heads are milled quite a bit. I would obviously advise you to check and double check all clearances and everything before running it.

Thats not a question I can just blindly answer one way or the other to. Sorry.
Gotcha. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Mike@ZMS
I don't give the cam spec's out, but I do offer a money back guarantee if it doesn't perform as promised to LS1tech members.

And as far as the cam card goes, I do send it with my cams, but I respectfully request that my customers don't post the specs.
Got ya well u got the biggest numbers iv seen so far w cam only thats awsome I might have to get ahlod of u when I get my hands on a 454lsx block in a few months down the raod for now im going to beat the heck out of mine till she pukes lol
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I like mine alright, but I still use my truck like a truck also and need the ft/lbs...
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Originally Posted by Mike@ZMS
There is a possibility of needing to flycut the pistons. Your heads are milled quite a bit. I would obviously advise you to check and double check all clearances and everything before running it.

Thats not a question I can just blindly answer one way or the other to. Sorry.


Just one more question. What type of dyno was stage 3 cam dyno'd on?
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Originally Posted by 1999FirehawkLS1
Got ya well u got the biggest numbers iv seen so far w cam only thats awsome I might have to get ahlod of u when I get my hands on a 454lsx block in a few months down the raod for now im going to beat the heck out of mine till she pukes lol
We did a lot of testing and tuning before we settled on this cam as our "Flagship" cam.

The cam makes great power everywhere and in my personal car (2001 Camaro SS, bolt-ons, cam-only) it makes the power that we advertise and it still gets awesome mileage on the highway. I did a road rally from Los Angeles to Amarillo Texas and back and I averaged 25mpg the whole way.

These are the reasons why we offer a money back guarantee to our LS1tech members.
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