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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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I never realized so many existed for the LS motors. Anyone have a Lobes For Dummies that I can see just what is different about them... whats the best?
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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http://www.howstuffworks.com/camshaft.htm
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Got that part. I mean like EPS, LSR, XR, etc...
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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I am curious also myself.
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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me three lol
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Because this is my current cam:

http://www.compcams.com/Cam_Specs/Ca...csid=1088&sb=1

and I think it is XR lobes. I want to order a bigger cam this week and looking for what's the hot lobes.
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Different lobes have different ramp rates as to how fast they open/close the valves. Good for power, bad for valve springs lol.

My cam is on XE-R lobes and it runs pretty good.

Best thing to do is call a sponsor or Comp cams and talk to someone about what your wanting from the car/engine, ask about lobes and see what they say.
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Me too on the guide to lobes. Someone should compile a light to heavy ramp rate chart with the lobes listed. (Or is there more to it than that?)
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Originally Posted by Gatsby
Me too on the guide to lobes. Someone should compile a light to heavy ramp rate chart with the lobes listed. (Or is there more to it than that?)
http://www.compcams.com/Base/pdf/lobesection.pdf
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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There is more to it than this but someone like PatrickG will have to explain the rest.

If you know the advertised duration (.006) of a cam you can calculate the ramp rate. To do this you take the duration @.006 and subtract it from the duration @ .050. A number of 53 or higher denotes an XE lobe or other mild lobe and a number of 49 or lower denotes an XE-R lobe or other aggressive lobe.

The discussion was about EPS lobes but the idea is the same for all lobes.
The ramp rate from .006" to .050" for the EPS lobes is 49 degrees. This is fast, but ramp rate is not the only determining factor in how spring friendly a cam is and how stable it will be at rpm. Acceleration and jerk are much more important factors and it is here where the EPS lobes are superior to the XE-R lobes. Acceleration and jerk are much more controlled with the EPS lobes vs. XE-R lobes even though they match the XE-R lobes at 49 degrees and have more lift.
The new Hot Rod magazine has a good cam article that explains a lot too.
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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Thank you, that was very helpful. I wasn't looking to completely understand how each lobe works, just how they differ and how to determine which is which. Thank you for your help.
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Back from the dead! Can anyone list in order least to most aggressive lobe offerings out there?

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LSL and LSK are some of the most aggresive I believe
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When you look at the numbers, take the .050 duration and subtract the .006 duration. The higher the number, the more aggressive the ramp rate of the lobes.
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 69LT1Bird
When you look at the numbers, take the .050 duration and subtract the .006 duration. The higher the number, the more aggressive the ramp rate of the lobes.
This is right but the except the Lower the number the more aggressive the lobe.
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guys you are making his question seem way more complicated then he's really asking.. I don't believe he wants an explanation on how ramp rates work or how to calculate them.. I believe he is asking what types are the MOST aggressive to LEAST aggressive i.e LSL LSK XER XR etc. Rank those in order for him and I think he'll have his question answered.
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Well, everyone is sticking to explaining comp lobes, which is great and all but I want to mention Cam Motion. Their lobes make power, and open and shut valves very quickly. They accomplish this in one way by running a smaller then normal base circle. Doing so is very common in aftermarket cams, however, with Cam Motion lobes it is more pronounced.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 05:19 AM
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Here is an example of 3 different line of Comp lobes, the XE-R is the least aggressive and the LSL and LSK are the same, the lower number difference between the .006 and .050 lift is the least aggressive.

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Type    Lobe#                          0.006        0.050        
Xtreme Energy XE-R    3722            273            224    
Xtreme Energy LSL    13017            277            227    
Xtreme Energy LSK    2127            277            227 
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 05:48 AM
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didnt TSP do a head to head comparison with different lobes and there was hardly any difference? Not 100% sure though.
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