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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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so any suggestions and ideas would be gladly appreciated
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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Yes, and I believe it's a different piston..3.905 instead of the stock 3.89..something like that.
Forged 346
Manley Forged -2cc Flat Top Pistons - 3.905" bore
Stock GM 3.622" Stroke Crankshaft
Forged 383
Manley Forged -2cc Flat Top Pistons - 3.905" bore
Scat 4.000" Stroke 4340 Steel Crankshaft
i think they are the same size piston but then again those are forged kit's from SDPC

383 for me now! it's only $300 more so why not right?

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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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what would be a good cam for my setup? i was leaning towards a comp cam extreme high rpm,is that suitable for that setup?
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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btw sorry for the thread hijack
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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not a problem! thats info for me......
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 88rx7v8
not a problem! thats info for me......
helping people out is the most important thing!
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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thats for sure!
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 01:51 AM
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Forged 346
Manley Forged -2cc Flat Top Pistons - 3.905" bore
Stock GM 3.622" Stroke Crankshaft
That would be a 347 I believe..
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 05:03 AM
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If you want to stay N/A with 10+:1 compression stay away from the 317 castings, they are the same as the 241s but the chamber is opened up bigger to 72cc where the 241s have a 66cc chamber. You have to take too much "meat" off the face of the 317s and the face will be too thin and also might run into intake fitment issues if you mill too much off. For a finish cheap good ouut of the box head look at the Patriot 2.5 ls6 heads, or pickup a used set of 243s and get the ported/ milled.

If you have $2,500+ to spend on heads go for AFRs or Trickflow heads...not sure about the AFRs, but I know with the TFs you also need to buy roller tip rockers.
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 06:43 AM
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you should run roller rockers on any head with bronze guides.PRC LS6 heads use iron guides.go with the 383.
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Originally Posted by garygnu
you should run roller rockers on any head with bronze guides.PRC LS6 heads use iron guides.go with the 383.
So you need the roller tip because of the bronze guides? I take it because they are softer material and vthe roller tip reduces wear on them?
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so which roller would be good? some yella terra?
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Originally Posted by mark21742
If you want to stay N/A with 10+:1 compression stay away from the 317 castings, they are the same as the 241s but the chamber is opened up bigger to 72cc where the 241s have a 66cc chamber. You have to take too much "meat" off the face of the 317s and the face will be too thin and also might run into intake fitment issues if you mill too much off. For a finish cheap good ouut of the box head look at the Patriot 2.5 ls6 heads, or pickup a used set of 243s and get the ported/ milled.

If you have $2,500+ to spend on heads go for AFRs or Trickflow heads...not sure about the AFRs, but I know with the TFs you also need to buy roller tip rockers.
This is NOT true. 317's and 241's are NOT the same. 243/799's are the same as 317's except for the chamber...
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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If you are asking simply will the 241s work, the answer is yes..will they work well thats another subject..I would go with a minimum of stage 1 ls6 prcs.. But thats just my opinion..if you are strapped for cash try to find a used set of 243s they should get you going in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
That would be a 347 I believe..
lol i'm just goin off of what the SDPC site says! anyways i'm goin with the 383 kit from them with a callies crank, flat top pistons but i'm not sure what rods i'm goin with yet because from what i've been told I beam rods would work great for me if i was goin with the m112 but now that i'm goin with a larger roots style i have to upgrade to the H beam rods, I beams are good for up to 650 crankHP and with the new blower, heads and blower cam i should be well above 650 at the crank . . . i might be above 650 at the wheels lol
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Originally Posted by BlackTA96
This is NOT true. 317's and 241's are NOT the same. 243/799's are the same as 317's except for the chamber...
Damnit too many casting numbers, thanks for the correction
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so the 241 works! im using those heads for now intul i save up for some l92,i know those 241 are not gonna give me too much top end but its just to get the car going and have a little fun with it.....
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I loved my 241's that were only pocket ported on my '02 WS6 A4. They only flowed about 260 to 265 cfm maxed out and with a Comp. 216/220 cam and FLP's w/Borla CB, and Vig3600 my WS6 ran consistant 11.78 to 11.81 times with stock gears in the stock 10 bolt. Most were surprised by my times in a full weight car. I only hope i get the money to have my 241's reworked with similar cam size, header and CB and run high 11.6's on my '02 SS A4. If ported right i don't see why 241's wouldn't treat you right. Best of work on your setup.
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Originally Posted by BlackNiteWS6
I loved my 241's that were only pocket ported on my '02 WS6 A4. They only flowed about 260 to 265 cfm maxed out and with a Comp. 216/220 cam and FLP's w/Borla CB, and Vig3600 my WS6 ran consistant 11.78 to 11.81 times with stock gears in the stock 10 bolt. Most were surprised by my times in a full weight car. I only hope i get the money to have my 241's reworked with similar cam size, header and CB and run high 11.6's on my '02 SS A4. If ported right i don't see why 241's wouldn't treat you right. Best of work on your setup.
I hope to produce great times with my worked over 241s this year too, last year my biggest problem was traction, this year I'll have 60 more cubes, bigger intake, tb and have a nice set of stickies laying in the basement for good bite
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any angle valve job on your 241???
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