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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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I started torquing down my rocker arms and this spring got really compressed before I hit 22 ft/lbs. Is this right? I'm not sure if there is any gap between the coils or not... Cam is a TR224 on 114 with stock length pushrods. Thanks

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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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It looks like your missing the guideplate that keeps the rockers all centered up. Maybe that's why they are compressing so much?
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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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It shouldnt be that compressed... make sure the pushrod is in the lifter
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Originally Posted by Cricket99SS
It looks like your missing the guideplate that keeps the rockers all centered up. Maybe that's why they are compressing so much?
Thats it!!! I didnt even notice... You need the aluminum rocker cradle.
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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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Ahhh!!!!!!!!!! crapola thanks alot *rushes out to car*
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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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Rest assured you aren't the first to forget that....I think thats the 4th time I've seen it now
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Thats it!!! I didnt even notice... You need the aluminum rocker cradle.




DOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


well don't that make you feel dumb
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Thanks a lot guys! I feel like a dumbass... It apprears that one or two threads were ripped out of the hole, but with some WD-40, an air compressor, and God on my side, I managed to get the bolt back in the securly torqued to specs. Oh and just out of curiosity, when I put in the rest of the rockers, why did most of them, or all for that matter compress the spring? I think all of them compressed the springs just the slightest bit, some more than others obviously, but if the valve was closed, should it be at the very top? Thanks
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Thanks a lot guys! I feel like a dumbass... It apprears that one or two threads were ripped out of the hole, but with some WD-40, an air compressor, and God on my side, I managed to get the bolt back in the securly torqued to specs. Oh and just out of curiosity, when I put in the rest of the rockers, why did most of them, or all for that matter compress the spring? I think all of them compressed the springs just the slightest bit, some more than others obviously, but if the valve was closed, should it be at the very top? Thanks
Without the rocker rails on there, the rocker was MUCH lower down (think 3D here) towards the cam. This put more pre-load on the lifters than the 0.050" max and so the only way the pressure could be releaved was for the valves to open. Some rockers will always be opening some valves which is why you "supposed" to set lash/torque on the base circle of the cam (but LS1s can fudge it with out "net lash"/non adjustable system).
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Originally Posted by 2001CamaroGuy
Without the rocker rails on there, the rocker was MUCH lower down (think 3D here) towards the cam. This put more pre-load on the lifters than the 0.050" max and so the only way the pressure could be releaved was for the valves to open. Some rockers will always be opening some valves which is why you "supposed" to set lash/torque on the base circle of the cam (but LS1s can fudge it with out "net lash"/non adjustable system).
So in english, I will be fine?
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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your fine, more than likely your lifters are pumped up and once you start it up everything will adjust to where it needs to be, well should anyway. That's why the lifters have preloads etc..

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Originally Posted by 2001CamaroGuy



DOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


well don't that make you feel dumb


Been there, done that!
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Do you people remove and reinstall your rockers one at a time. I loosen all the bolts and lift all 8 off at once by holding the rail on each end. When it comes time to reinstall, just grab the rail and reinstall all 8 at once. You'll never leave the rail off that way.
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Rail, what rail ......Oh yaaa, I use Yella's. No more rail for me
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
Do you people remove and reinstall your rockers one at a time. I loosen all the bolts and lift all 8 off at once by holding the rail on each end. When it comes time to reinstall, just grab the rail and reinstall all 8 at once. You'll never leave the rail off that way.
I took them off one by one, that way I wouldn't drop any...
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
So in english, I will be fine?


yeah....your fine...
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ok i got him beat i forgot to put my valve seals back in -and i didnt notice untill i had the car all back together --Then i noticed 8 seals sitting on the bench LMAO I never screemed S h i t ! so loud in my life
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Originally Posted by GrapeApe
ok i got him beat i forgot to put my valve seals back in -and i didnt notice untill i had the car all back together --Then i noticed 8 seals sitting on the bench LMAO I never screemed S h i t ! so loud in my life
I don't feel so dumb any more
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
I don't feel so dumb any more
Ahh dont sell yourself short
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Originally Posted by GrapeApe
ok i got him beat i forgot to put my valve seals back in -and i didnt notice untill i had the car all back together --Then i noticed 8 seals sitting on the bench LMAO I never screemed S h i t ! so loud in my life
damn, i think i would have just given up, and let it sit in the garage until i built up enough interest to go and finish it, lol
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