Cam Swap #2... asking for help this time...
Never said your shop wasn't good. I think your engine work is of top notch. I'd take it to you guys for any mechanical fabrication or work. Hell, I'd take it to you guys for manual tuning if I had a manual. Just from others experiences Doug does not tune auto cars well. His experience is in road racing and manuals which explains why he's good at those tunes.
I understand autos are tough to tune. Having a loaded dyno would help you out also.
I'm not throwing any names under the bus. The person had absolutely nothing to gain.
My name is irrelivant. You don't know me nor have you ever heard of me.
And last, with a cam like that, he'd benefit with a higher stall. Cam's that size on autos require a 3500 or larger. Especially with a heavy car like a GTO. He'd even benefit even more if it was a 4k stall. I don't need my TC anymore and am just offering to help out someone with a good deal. If he would want it, that's great. No skin off my back if he doesn't. Just making an offer to help another car guy.
I understand autos are tough to tune. Having a loaded dyno would help you out also.
I'm not throwing any names under the bus. The person had absolutely nothing to gain.
My name is irrelivant. You don't know me nor have you ever heard of me.
And last, with a cam like that, he'd benefit with a higher stall. Cam's that size on autos require a 3500 or larger. Especially with a heavy car like a GTO. He'd even benefit even more if it was a 4k stall. I don't need my TC anymore and am just offering to help out someone with a good deal. If he would want it, that's great. No skin off my back if he doesn't. Just making an offer to help another car guy.
Last edited by 00MaroonZ28; Mar 27, 2010 at 06:27 AM.
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[QUOTE=00MaroonZ28;13094661]Never said your shop wasn't good.QUOTE]
Thanks for this one.
Yep what we are know for, blowing stuff up. I didn't mean anything bad BS........
Did you know everyone has a uncle for a transmission builder.
Name two guys that has showed up to the shop with a good car, friendly, didn't act like a know it all, no broke wires, broken plugs, headers-exhaust banging off the floor, and was too much of a puss to speak up if something wasnt right. Left here unhappy to get flat out blown off by DRM. Should we say in the last 5 years? The first day of a business class I learned, you are going to have a couple pain in the *** customers a year. But someone honesty has a huge problem we take care of it.
This one really breaks my heart unless it's from the a-hole in the north. There is a saying KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE AND ENEMIES CLOSER. Rippie's work a bit different we help our friends like crazy and who cares about our enemies.
Selling for your buddies, now I understand the blowing out our candle to make your's glow brighter. There is always more to a story then meets the eyes. You are the best sales guy in the world. You can tell what the customer wants without ever talking to him or even reading the first damn post.
"First of all, DMR tunes it conservatively when on the dyno so you probably got a little power to spare."
" Keeps him from blowing **** up like he's done in the past."
"Second, he's not a good A4 tuner and has had problems tuning them in the past. "
"Trust me, I know many guys that have gone out there just to be disappointed"
Just like all these engines we blow up right?
Just like all these engines we blow up right?
"and have heard from people who have worked for him about his LS tuning problems."
"HiTech tunes are good for peak hp but are horseshit for street manners. CJTunes and Adam's Speed Shop (A.S.S.), a friend of mine, have done a good job on my car for half the cost. They'll take the time to tune it right. A 45 min tune will be horseshit for street manners. Ask me about my HiTech tune. Anyways, come over to MNGMP.Org and see what the guys over there say. Not much different than here. If you want I can get you in touch with Adam and get him to tune the car. He got mine pushing 410 through a Dana 60 with 4.10's and 3500 stall and smaller cam than yours. With the size of your cam, you'll want a bigger stall. I'll be selling my TCI 3500 in a couple weeks when I get my new transmission with a 4k stall. Let me know if you're interested or have questions."
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Never said your shop wasn't good. I think your engine work is of top notch. I'd take it to you guys for any mechanical fabrication or work. Hell, I'd take it to you guys for manual tuning if I had a manual. Just from others experiences Doug does not tune auto cars well. His experience is in road racing and manuals which explains why he's good at those tunes.
I understand autos are tough to tune. Having a loaded dyno would help you out also.
I'm not throwing any names under the bus. The person had absolutely nothing to gain.
My name is irrelivant. You don't know me nor have you ever heard of me.
And last, with a cam like that, he'd benefit with a higher stall. Cam's that size on autos require a 3500 or larger. Especially with a heavy car like a GTO. He'd even benefit even more if it was a 4k stall. I don't need my TC anymore and am just offering to help out someone with a good deal. If he would want it, that's great. No skin off my back if he doesn't. Just making an offer to help another car guy.
I understand autos are tough to tune. Having a loaded dyno would help you out also.
I'm not throwing any names under the bus. The person had absolutely nothing to gain.
My name is irrelivant. You don't know me nor have you ever heard of me.
And last, with a cam like that, he'd benefit with a higher stall. Cam's that size on autos require a 3500 or larger. Especially with a heavy car like a GTO. He'd even benefit even more if it was a 4k stall. I don't need my TC anymore and am just offering to help out someone with a good deal. If he would want it, that's great. No skin off my back if he doesn't. Just making an offer to help another car guy.
I know you aren't going to throw any names under the bus. So what you did is threw everybodies name under the bus. Nice work a-hole, I have known these people half my life. That takes a huge bite out of my heart, it really does.
You really have me laughing this AM. I know who you are and for the record I'm going to call you Obama JR. Say anything to leave a impression, the only person that benefits from it is yourself and your friends. And once confronted you slime ball your way out.
Dude you are a class act.
Randy
PS You should look up the words "libel" and "Defamatory" before you post more crap from a keyboard quarter back postion. We aren't going to court or anything. It's just not that cool. It's a small world and even smaller without any bridges.
Last edited by Ranrace; Mar 27, 2010 at 09:20 AM.
they didn't blow mine up 
i was worried that i did a bad job on my build and that it was gonna explode. Doug was giving me crap saying that if it was gonna blow up it woulda already. Except for having to swap injectors(28's to 42's) when i got there i had my car in perfect running condition though too. I had a slight miss when i first built it and got all that situated before i brought it in. I think we all need to get along 
he did around 10 pulls on the dyno with mine because it was being a pain in the *** to tune and the car took all he could throw at it
i was worried that i did a bad job on my build and that it was gonna explode. Doug was giving me crap saying that if it was gonna blow up it woulda already. Except for having to swap injectors(28's to 42's) when i got there i had my car in perfect running condition though too. I had a slight miss when i first built it and got all that situated before i brought it in. I think we all need to get along he did around 10 pulls on the dyno with mine because it was being a pain in the *** to tune and the car took all he could throw at it Last edited by Cole Train; Mar 27, 2010 at 04:00 PM.
So after I said something the story changes.
I know you aren't going to throw any names under the bus. So what you did is threw everybodies name under the bus. Nice work a-hole, I have known these people half my life. That takes a huge bite out of my heart, it really does.
You really have me laughing this AM. I know who you are and for the record I'm going to call you Obama JR. Say anything to leave a impression, the only person that benefits from it is yourself and your friends. And once confronted you slime ball your way out.
Dude you are a class act.
Randy
PS You should look up the words "libel" and "Defamatory" before you post more crap from a keyboard quarter back postion. We aren't going to court or anything. It's just not that cool. It's a small world and even smaller without any bridges.
I know you aren't going to throw any names under the bus. So what you did is threw everybodies name under the bus. Nice work a-hole, I have known these people half my life. That takes a huge bite out of my heart, it really does.
You really have me laughing this AM. I know who you are and for the record I'm going to call you Obama JR. Say anything to leave a impression, the only person that benefits from it is yourself and your friends. And once confronted you slime ball your way out.
Dude you are a class act.
Randy
PS You should look up the words "libel" and "Defamatory" before you post more crap from a keyboard quarter back postion. We aren't going to court or anything. It's just not that cool. It's a small world and even smaller without any bridges.
Plus, I really don't care where he takes it, but I'm giving him recommendations. People that have had good experiences with others and people that have helped fix tunes that others have messed up. I don't gain anything by refering him to anyone. Of the guys I know that tune, only one is my friend and I just know of the other. Both do a good job for half your price and will retune for new mods when you need it. Do you guys charge extra for a customer that tunes with you, then mods, then needs a retune?
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AGREED.... Randy-im still deciding whether or not Ill be doing another cam swap(the GTO rips... definitely fast and sounding amazing)-but IF i do...you guys will be taking care of it, and I guarantee that you guys will be seeing me again (whether it will be the GTO or future cars)
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Very true.... Tooley recommend a cam with no more than 228* on the intake side with their ported 5.3's to have healthy PTV clearance. TSP can do this because of their shrouded valves or whatnot. Correct me if I am wrong.
So whats the issue here?
This is what I'm getting out of the thread.
1. The cam is too big so its not making the power it should?
Really the bigger the cam the more peak power you will make.
The big cam will have driveablity issues not making a number.
So what is the issue then?????????
This is what I'm getting out of the thread.
1. The cam is too big so its not making the power it should?
Really the bigger the cam the more peak power you will make.
The big cam will have driveablity issues not making a number.
So what is the issue then?????????
Like I said before I think there are more issues with the car than just the tune, so until those are sorted out then there is no point in anyone tuning the car at all! And again, if you want the car tuned by someone else, myself and many others have had great experience with you can send me a pm and I will gladly give you his number. Its not going to be free though.
Best of luck O/P i hope it all gets figured out for you. As for the baby cam comment i wouldn't call it a baby cam but it's not an aggressive one either. It does surge but it's not terrible and only does it sometimes. Just something i need DRM to polish up when i get a chance to go down there
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So whats the issue here?
This is what I'm getting out of the thread.
1. The cam is too big so its not making the power it should?
Really the bigger the cam the more peak power you will make.
The big cam will have driveablity issues not making a number.
So what is the issue then?????????
This is what I'm getting out of the thread.
1. The cam is too big so its not making the power it should?
Really the bigger the cam the more peak power you will make.
The big cam will have driveablity issues not making a number.
So what is the issue then?????????
The main issue with this car is the install, I don't want to get into all the details. I'm 99 percent sure we will find the reason why it's down so much on power in the heads (bent valves, seats wrong or something like that) If not it will the camshaft degree or something like that. Did anybody check for a bent pushrod after all the valves crashed the first time, me, you and the whole internet has no idea.
If he wants to run his big camshaft, no problems. Check piston to valve clearance and make sure eveything else is healthy. We really need to talk with TEA, Is Tooley the guy we need to talk with??? Who's camshaft is this, because we should talk with him also.
We maybe not 100 percent perfect, but we aren't 80 horsepower off.
Randy
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