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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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Brian get off the damn internet and do some work......
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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THATS IT! as soon as i get 2Gs together i am ordering a set!
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Ordered mine. But, may be a little bit before I install them though.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian
Hey Jason, isn't that the car that blew up like 2 weeks later from to much compression on stock pistons?
Josh, the car did crack a stock piston almost a year later from detonating the motor. His compression was no higher than yours though. The car was running great up until he went racing in the summer heat (100+ degrees). The car had no detonation problems up until this point, but the combination of the heat, compression, and 93 octane finally caught up to his tired out stock pistons.

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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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hey jason, what happened to those GTP heads?
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Does this at all pertain to those that have stage II heads and if so what numbers are we looking at? Expense and power figures. Thanks, Christopher
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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Mr. Tooley I also had the TEA 1.5 5.3 heads and u schould be sending me the other set in a few days.. I called and talked to u last week.. So with these heads.. Your saying that I schould have some serious torque.. And prob a little more HP

I had 397HP and 388TQ

Iam pretty confident that me and Chevydan. Are going to be making some good #'s with the heads.. That we are geting..
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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hey jason, what happened to those GTP heads?
Those are not the heads you know of. Those heads were never on my car. lol They went on a customer's car here locally.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Cursed1
Does this at all pertain to those that have stage II heads and if so what numbers are we looking at? Expense and power figures. Thanks, Christopher
It applys to all Stg I, Stg 1.5 and Stg II heads, both 5.3 and 5.7 It is our belief that some of these guys that are not making the power could be attributed to the final hand blending of the heads. It is our goal to see at least 400 on A4 cars and 430 on M6 cars. If you are below this power level give us a call so that we can discuss options.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason99T/A
Those are not the heads you know of. Those heads were never on my car. lol They went on a customer's car here locally.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason99T/A
Josh, the car did crack a stock piston almost a year later from detonating the motor. His compression was no higher than yours though. The car was running great up until he went racing in the summer heat (100+ degrees). The car had no detonation problems up until this point, but the combination of the heat, compression, and 93 octane finally caught up to his tired out stock pistons.

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Oh ok gotcha. I remember a while back when I was having cranking comp. problems you told me about this car. Just curious

FWIW, I am getting a LOT of PM's concerning my heads. I can publically answer the most answered question right now....Yes, my heads are "finished to competition level" as Brian described...

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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:40 AM
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Thanks for the call brian. I will get these puppies on as soon as possible. The hand finished ports do look alot different. 400rwp here me and superslow come
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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I think the bottom line is that a 40-50HP increase IS well worth the 2K or so that it takes to get a really nice set of heads. I also wanted to modify my statement from earlier a little bit in that If one assumes that a STOCK set of LS6 heads are worth perhaps 15HP over a stock set of LS1 heads, then I still think it would be VERY difficult to see a 45-50 HP increase over a set of STOCK LS6 heads. As we all know peak nummbers aren't the whole story anyway but I would say TEA, GTP, Absolute Speed, And PP all can acheive this 45-50 HP increase over a stock LS1 head using their best offerings.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
It applys to all Stg I, Stg 1.5 and Stg II heads, both 5.3 and 5.7 It is our belief that some of these guys that are not making the power could be attributed to the final hand blending of the heads. It is our goal to see at least 400 on A4 cars and 430 on M6 cars. If you are below this power level give us a call so that we can discuss options.

Orginal R & D, Testing, Results & Customer service like this made me a repeat TEA customer. Looking forward to TEA updating my JPR LS6 Stage I's to TEA 2.5 Judson LS6.

As for torque with TEA heads, my 99 T/A made 390rwtq @ 4,000 rpm and orginal 5.3 & SRP 224 cam. I think Damian's 5.3's with the hand touch ups made ~400+ rwtq @ 4,000 rpm.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
It is our goal to see at least 430 on M6 cars. If you are below this power level give us a call so that we can discuss options.
Does that apply to customers that bought your heads but have since moved on (losing $800+labor+bolts+gaskets)? What options do you offer your "guinea pigs" that ran, praised, defended, and trusted your heads and had an inferior (and less than advertised/promised) product? Per your previous emails, you now admit that the heads in question (basically all 5.7l heads previous to a few months ago) were inferior, not as advertised, and did not perform up to expectations due to someone "cheating" the flowbench, and only completely finishing one port, convieniently enough, the port that was to be flowed (which was always the same port until recently). How do you intend to make these cases right?

I'm happy that your heads are improving, I have always said that someone with as much successful head porting experience as TEA, it would only be a matter of time until their LS1 heads were as good as their 5.0 heads.

Good work on the new heads, looking forward to seeing future results from your new, improved heads. Its just a shame that you lost customers and trust along the way. Not bashing or flaming, just my opinion.

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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Chevydan.. 400 HP no no.. I thought that you where making that now..

Iam pulling 397HP and 388TQ I want to be at least at 430HP
And from what Brian is saying. With are new heads.. We really schouldent have a big problem geting there..

Good luck..
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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Shawn, play nice please

FWIW, my car made 409 ft lbs @ 4300 rpm's with a cam that's on a 114 ICL

If my cam was advanced down at least 4 degrees, I would be making some seriously SICK tq @ low rpm's....My car is also tuned for 23* max timing below 4K rpm's right now as well. W/ tuning alone I should easily see 380-390 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm's....

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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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I have a 224 224 581 581 112 cam..

And made 397HP
388Tq
After MTI tune
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SPANKY LS1
Does that apply to customers that bought your heads but have since moved on (losing $800+labor+bolts+gaskets)? What options do you offer your "guinea pigs" that ran, praised, defended, and trusted your heads and had an inferior (and less than advertised/promised) product? Per your previous emails, you now admit that the heads in question (basically all 5.7l heads previous to a few months ago) were inferior, not as advertised, and did not perform up to expectations due to someone "cheating" the flowbench, and only completely finishing one port, convieniently enough, the port that was to be flowed (which was always the same port until recently). How do you intend to make these cases right?


Shawn
still the biggest sponser basher on the board I see. Hmm whats your new combo make? Its not done yet?
how fast did it go with your TEA heads? oh........you never ran it......you got mad at dyno numbers I remember now
guess what my car made 340 rwhp on the dyno and ran 11.31@120
now you made 410 and were scared to run yours......that just doesn't make sense to me. It was maybe and install problem with your heads I think.Did you install them yourself?
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by H82BBad
still the biggest sponser basher on the board I see. Hmm whats your new combo make? Its not done yet?
how fast did it go with your TEA heads? oh........you never ran it......you got mad at dyno numbers I remember now
How am I bashing? He is "guaranteeing" DYNO NUMBERS not ETs. He made the statement "It is our goal to see at least 430 on M6 cars. If you are below this power level give us a call so that we can discuss options", and I asked if that applied to former customers who were not delivered the numbers, flow, or quality they were promised. How is this bashing? I asked a simple question. Just as I am the "biggest basher" on this board, you are the biggest a$$kisser, so quick to blindly defend, without even reading the post to verify its contents....

Originally Posted by H82BBad
It was maybe and install problem with your heads I think.Did you install them yourself?
Yes, I did install them myself. Either (A) Myself and everyone else with TEA 5.7 heads are idiots and do not know how to install heads, therby causing the setup to be down HP, or (B)As Brian said, his 5.7 heads were underperformers and not what they were supposed to be, due to someone not fully finishing the ports, only the ones that were to be flowed, convientely enough.

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now you made 410 and were scared to run yours......that just doesn't make sense to me.
I was scared to run it. I was scared that my H/C car would get outrun by most other H/C cars, and even by a few stock internal cars, as yours has.

As stated above, play nice..... Theres no need to turn this into a full-on-bashing-argument tread. I asked a simple question in response to a statement from Brian, and was in no way bashing, insulting, offensive, or unfairly attacking TEA. (In fact, complimenting to an extent).

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