you already have turned it into bash. You are an idiot as everyone can see. You make it obvious. I know TEA does great work. There can be problems with almost any shop out there. Guess what the way the shop handles problems is what makes it a great shop!

Now lets say you buy a cobra and doesnt make the power that is advertized. You are mad cause you wanted more so you trade it in on an ls1 car. Ford comes out with a fix.......Do you think they are going to take care of you in your ls1? Cause you once had one? If you do you are dumber than you act on here.
Your whole post is a bash and you know it. BTW Your stock internal car hasn't beat my times so I must be doing something right
Hope your new heads work for you..I doubt you will have enough time to bash 2 sponsers!

looking foreward to meeting you someday I will bring the cheese........I know you will have the whine.
Brent

 

It's great to see improvements in the LS1 heads.
I've personally have never seen over 420hp on any H+C package at my Dyno shop.(except my car with a huge cam)
This includes TEA,Patriot,Cartek,ESP...I installed a TEA stage 2 ported LS1 heads,TEA 224 cam,LS6 intake on a 00 Z28 with Longtubes/ORP and it made 375hp stock tune and 389hp after much time into tuning.The H/C added 65rwhp..

 

Spanky we don't need anyone crusading in threads like this, please just discuss your own experiences with whomever the subject sponsor is in any threads.

 

Thanks PSJ, my experience was with TEA. I am not "crusading", I asked a simple question based on a statement from a sponsor with which I spent $1800 and recieved an admittedly inferior product.

I have bashed? Where? I am an idiot? For what, having a different perspective than you, a different opinion than you? Am I an idiot for not getting a "special" set of heads?

By "problem" do you mean innocent mistakes or oversights, or do you mean knowingly and addmittedly selling inferior and underperforming products? How did TEA "handle the problem"? I suppose that it was merely coincidence that within 24hrs of selling my TEA heads, after many unanswered posts, questions, and calls that Brian suddenly emailed me with "I wish I would have known before you sold them, I would have taken care of it....". He knows we (purchasers of TEA 5.7 heads) were wronged. I have refrained from posting complete details on here (at Brian's request, he begged me and others who recieved the same email to stop talking about TEA). Ask Brian about the email begging and pleads to keep quiet.

If you had the Cobra, and after you traded it in or sold it (at nearly a 50% loss because every other potential Cobra purchaser to be knew that they weren't what they were supposed to be) Ford said "We guarantee that the new-and-improved Cobra will dyno XXX or call us and discuss options" you wouldn't call and ask why they stuck their heads in the sand and did nothing while it could have helped you (much less saved you the money that you lost in selling it for 50% what you paid for it)?

I am sure that TEA does some great work, as I have mentioned at least twice in my "bashing" threads. When you run a business, and someone who is working for you is doing an inferior job and shorting your customers, you still owe something to the customers more than firing that employee and saying "our new stuff won't be like the old stuff", IMO.

Lastly, if my comments were posted by another poster, one who hasn't had "problems" with TEA in the past, they would be considered "legitimate concerns/questions" and would be treated more respectfully and not jumped on as bashing. But, as soon as some people see that "SPANKY LS1" has posted in a TEA thread, everyone puts on their flame suits on, steps up on their soapboxes, and gets overly defensive (As I have been told by moderators on this board). Try and reread my posts, and remove your emotion, and ask yourself where I have "bashed" TEA? Where have I "attacked" TEA? If you're gonna quote me, at least use my whole statement, not only the parts that support your argument.

Shawn

 

Sure it does, I haven't built my business into one of the largest CNC porting businesses in the country by not taking care of people, next time you need a set of heads, give me a call.

Their were no "guinea pigs", everyone knows that the 5.3 casting is superior to the 5.7, I didn't sell you those heads, one of my dealers did, they should have been using the 5.3's all along. There was nothing less then advertised, they flowed on the bench what they were supposed to, we still don't know if we have a real problem, but we will know more soon.

Read above, we have not admitted to anything, they were as advertised, and most performed up to expectations, the flowbench was never "cheated". Any heads that we do that can't be made to flow, what they are supposed to were sold on EBAY for $500 bare or $800c complete. We obviously do suspect that some of the heads didn't have ALL of the ports flowing the same. Right now we don't know if the difference in our best that we can do and the worst out there is 5 RWHP or 30 RWHP.

We have had dealers that said that the spread between the GTP heads they used to sell was 40 RWHP and the spread in ours was 10 RWHP, then we tend to think that there isn't a problem, but then we see two cars on our dyno make 30 RWHP difference with the same cam, we then suspect something. This post is about making some of the low RWHP cars better, if it is indeed the heads. We don't completely finish any of the ports (unless someone paid extra for it), we just blend the valve job into the port and it flows the number and is assembled. Of course I see the same thing with other sponsors heads, we have all seen Patriot, or GTP or even Absolute with some 380-390 RWHP cars. What is the problem?? I don't know, I would tend to think that it is not the heads alone. I obviously care about the LS1 business we have and I want to take care of anyone that has our product that is not happy. I can't count how many happy customers we have, hundreds, thats for sure. But we can do 100 sets of heads and 2 can be down on power and those 2 will be on here crying and whining, while the ones that are happy seldom say a thing. We have had people pull off Stg II Cartech heads (who I have alot of respect for) and install our Stg 1.5 5.3 heads and pick up 25 RWHP, then I feel we have a good product. But then if someone else flows the heads and they don't flow then I want to know what is going on with MY product.

Spanky, the bottom line here is YOU did not contact me on the phone, if e-mails were sent I did not know about them, and if you made ugly posts on here about them then I probably did not see those either. So your problem is the way you handled your situation, and its not getting any better.

 

You have a PM, this thread has gone far enough to crap....

 

Brian.. Thanks for all your help.. And I no for a fact.. That you are a 100% for helping who ever has your product..
Iam very thankfuly for your help..
And iam schure Chevydan is as well..

 

We should be able to engine dyno the 346 going into my RS at Wegner with TEA 2.5 heads and maybe test a few intakes too. I think the TEa 2.5 do very well too. Will probably be the first of March.

 

Well, just talked to Brian and I can tell you that his level of customer service is excellent, and whatever problems TEA has/had is/has been corrected. He offered to work with me and help me in a way that was above and beyond what I expected him to do. I'm impressed, we'll see what happens.....

Shawn

 

Been tryin' to tell you that for awhile now Shawn Glad you had the oppportunity to speak w/Brian personally. It's by now, no secret that I too am impressed by the product/service Brian offers. There aren't too many companies that I am loyal to(hell, I fired/boycotted SEARS five years ago over a bad customer service issue)....TEA is top notch folks in my book.

Glad you're finally seeing what the TEA "cheerleaders" have been claiming all along. Hope everything works well for you....I'm sure you'll be pleased in the end.

 

I was also greatly impressed with the time Brian spent with me on the phone with him, after I had a concern about a past statement. The forum is no place to argue as we simply cant reflect accurate tone and therfor meaning in a post. Whether something is said in jest or to be a small dig, it can always come across wrong.
My experience, my cartek Stage 2x made 427 rwhp (228/224 58x lift) on a 346 with headers and pully (auto, w/ stock cat back). Friends c5 made 427 rwhp with stage 1.5 tea's and a recommended off the shelf 228/228 .58x cam, headers, no pully (m6 w/ free flowing exaust).
Pretty competitive when you consider pricing. BTW he was faster due mostly to weight I assume.
Point being, TEA seems to have an above average product with excellent service and fair pricing.