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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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11-1 347ci, Trex Cam, ported heads, Super vic single plain with 4150 to dominator adapter and a dominator TB. At idle it's between 21-24" from 950-1100rpm.. Solid 14.5-15.0 AFR in gear.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 02:15 PM
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no. seems way high. thats what a completly stock engine should pull at idle. is that in gear or out? and if its out, whats the AFR?

increasing AFR to about 13.5-14.0 at idle will improve vacuume and response.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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Wow, I would think you would have about 12" or so normally. What do you get on decel?
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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The log I'm looking at right now in HP tuners shows 71 (1228rpm) to 78kpa (976rpm) at idle in gear in the 14.5-15 afr, which equates to 21.97-23.03" when i use the unit converter in HP tuners.

Couple things though, not sure if this makes a difference or not but:

There is no hole in the throttle body blades like on a factory TB. Being a dominator TB, there is an air adjustment screw to crack the blades slightly which doesn't even get in to TPS% being over 0% at idle. I have the IAC motor block off completely. I'd say the hole I had in the factory TB with LS6 intake was huge compared to what i have now, plus, I used to use the IAC motor on the LS6 factory TB tune.

There is nothing using vacum on this motor. No brake booster.


Anything wrong with that much vacum?
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what kind of exhaust are you running ?
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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Edelbrock 1 3/4 stepped to 1 7/8 headers with high velocity merge collectors. Dual electric cut outs. Necks down to 2.5" and goes through a set of turbo mufflers.

Looking at an old log, had the same vacum with the same headers but 3" X-pipe with warlock mufflers.

Tune did change a bit as far as fuel concerns between the two exhausts.. I'm sure the new set up has a lot more back pressure when corked.
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is the vaccum reading the same with the cutout open ?
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more vac:good less vac:bad If your IAC is blocked off how do you idle when TB is at 0%. Eng should starve for air.
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A Trex 347 car stays in the 12-14 range normally from what I've seen
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Originally Posted by LIL SS
The log I'm looking at right now in HP tuners shows 71 (1228rpm) to 78kpa (976rpm) at idle in gear in the 14.5-15 afr, which equates to 21.97-23.03" when i use the unit converter in HP tuners.




Anything wrong with that much vacum?

So your MAP reading at idle is 71-78kpa? in that case you hardly have any vaccum at idle. A stock car is in the 30 range so you have less than half of what a stock car would have. Looks like your in the 8" range of vaccum at idle. You are doing your math backwards. Remember atmosphere is ~100kpa to your stock 1bar map
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