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Jun 2, 2010 | 11:47 AM

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El Torro Idle

What is your El Torro idle set at? I just ordered the cam and I want my car to lope pretty hard.

I was thinking maybe setting idle at 800. Thoughts?

Jun 2, 2010 | 11:53 AM

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mines 900 but still needs more tuning and doesnt always like to idle there all the time.

Jun 2, 2010 | 12:00 PM

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Get that bitch tuned Dakota!

For what it's worth, my cam is close to the el torro and it sits around 850-900ish.

Jun 2, 2010 | 03:05 PM

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who tuned your car ssmoken?

i will get it tuned, i just want it to idle real low

Jun 2, 2010 | 03:45 PM

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950 and still choppy as hell

Jun 2, 2010 | 04:17 PM

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who tuned your car ssmoken?

i will get it tuned, i just want it to idle real low

Just a local guy. As soon as my heads get here it's going on the dyno to get finished up.

Jun 3, 2010 | 01:10 AM

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I think it has an 8° valve overlap. If you want a comparison I had a 15.5° overlap on my 244/248 cam and it loped really hard.

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Jun 3, 2010 | 05:57 AM

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You will care when it dies at every stop light!

I had my 244/248 cam idle set to 1100 and it still had a pro stock idle.
228R is set to 900.

Jun 3, 2010 | 07:40 AM

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You don't set your idle for sound. You set it for where the cam has decent vacuum. 850-950 rpm is probably about right. I have played with my idle quite a bit from 1000 rpm down to 600 rpm and it reallys doesn't lope any harder the lower you go. I prefer the way it sounds around 900, a nice quick chop. It will lope pretty good anyways, here is my 224 cam idle @ 900 rpm, yours will sound similar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed8s0ovoQDU

Jun 3, 2010 | 10:04 AM

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You will care when it dies at every stop light!

I had my 244/248 cam idle set to 1100 and it still had a pro stock idle.
228R is set to 900.

yeah, my car dies quite a bit. if it ever stays idling at 900 though its fine.

Jun 3, 2010 | 10:31 AM

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The El Torro needs a 900-950 rpm idle and correct MAF/VE/RAF calibrations. The driveability of this cam is less than impressive and requires some extra elbow grease to tune properly.

Jun 3, 2010 | 01:32 PM

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Why is the cam not easy to drive on city streets? I didnt think it was that aggressive of a grind

Jun 3, 2010 | 02:11 PM

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The El Torro needs a 900-950 rpm idle and correct MAF/VE/RAF calibrations. The driveability of this cam is less than impressive and requires some extra elbow grease to tune properly.

Mine drives GREAT once it warm. Doesn't cut off, minimal surge etc...more power EVERYWHERE. Cold start SUCKS though....

Jun 3, 2010 | 02:45 PM

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No reason cold start should suck at all, do you have hptuners or anything? I could fix that for you.

Jun 3, 2010 | 08:39 PM

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Mine drives GREAT once it warm. Doesn't cut off, minimal surge etc...more power EVERYWHERE. Cold start SUCKS though....

What does it do during cold starts?

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Why is the cam not easy to drive on city streets? I didnt think it was that aggressive of a grind

Because it's on a 230 cam on a 111LSA.

Jun 3, 2010 | 10:43 PM

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It has 2 degrees of advance ground into it, should that be 113

Jun 4, 2010 | 03:58 PM

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What does it do during cold starts?

Because it's on a 230 cam on a 111LSA.

Damien, It just knocks off w/o a little throttle and hunts for idle. After about a minute all is good.......

Jun 4, 2010 | 04:04 PM

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It has 2 degrees of advance ground into it, should that be 113

No. 2 degrees of advances means it's bringing the intake closing point or "ICL" down to a 109. Advance does not change the LSA, it changes intake closing.

The El Torro is a 111+2 which means it's a 111LSA/109ICL.