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Old 06-15-2010 | 02:48 PM
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That's crazy man. How many miles did you have on the vette when that happened? Insurance called me and said they're running a little behind with the weather we've had so within a week but it's usually 24 to 48 hours. She said that the adjuster will either write up an estimate on the spot and give it to the shop (of my choosing) or he'll just have me take it to a shop and they'll use the shops estimate. I'm really hoping for the latter because the shop by my house the guy said he'll work with me and if I get him a forged rotating assembly and all that then he'll install it. I found an LQ9 locally. Long block for 700. It needs an oil pump and new bearings and there's a 408 stroker kit on here for 1300+shipping. Brand new pistons and the rods and crank have 5000 miles. Then go with a LS6 intake and I think I'd be good for a while. Throw in a cam while it's out too and I can't think of anything else I'd need. So about 3000 in parts then just the cost of labor and assembly. Hopefully insurance will cover that much.
Old 06-15-2010 | 05:28 PM
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sucks to hear man BUT, i'm in tx and have a longblock that was knocking but still banging all 8 that i'd sell for $400 picked up. pulled the pan and all the rotating assem and block look fine. great candidate for a 383 rebuild or even regular rebuild. PM if interested or email jarrettatherton@yahoo.com
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Thanks, I'll let you know. Is it a LS1 long block? What all comes with it? I'm wanting to set up to the iron 6.0 since I have to get a new block anyway but I'll see what works out.
Old 06-15-2010 | 10:47 PM
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Well, I got bored today and decided to take a couple pictures. I can't get very good ones since the motor is still in the car but I think it's pretty safe to say the motor is ruined lol

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Old 06-15-2010 | 11:13 PM
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blah, must be on photobucket. I see nothing here at work.
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There, attached them lol I'll just edit out the photobucket links.
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hard to tell, but yeah it broke something aluminum!
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yeah i'd say the block is trash!
The Vette had about 40,000 miles when this all went down. Your mechanic should have some wiggle room with the adjustor, but im not sure how much. i tried to get them to use an LS2 that i found locally but the insurance company insisted the engine be an original replacement. If they play that card on you there's always a 383 stroker, they wouldnt know the difference.
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How did your insurance know you were trying for a LS2? Was your shop forced to tell them that or did they monitor it somehow? The guy I'm going through said to just bring him the parts I want and he'll do it so I'm not sure how it'll work out. Insurance also said they can either make the check out to me/the shop or to me/the lien holder so I'm not entirely sure how that works out, but I'm really hoping for a iron 408 setup.
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Well, insurance just came by. He basically told me I can either find a LKQ motor or a Reman. He said there used to be a depreciation I'd have to pay for a reman but not anymore. He basically said that he'd expect it to be about 4000 or so. It seemed like he was saying after the shop diagnoses it then an adjuster will come out again and look at it at the shop then insurance stays out of it. The shop does all the work then insurance pays them and it's end of story. I'm going to talk to the shop today and as long as they're ok with it then I'll just go with a 408. Now I just need to figure out what cam to go with lol I'll be running 317 heads for the time being unless I can find some 243's or L92's really cheap. Now it just kind of depends what the shop says on how much I can get away with.
Old 06-16-2010 | 09:25 AM
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^--- You can take it to any shop that you want the work done at. You tell the adjuster to cut you the check, and thats that.
Old 06-16-2010 | 09:33 AM
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Yea they're letting me take it where I want but they can't just write me a check because I have a lien. Either has to be me/shop or me/bank
Old 06-16-2010 | 09:56 AM
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We do have some brand new LS6 crate engines avail for $3175 + shipping. Direct fit for the most part. Change the pan to yours (which wasnt damaged if I read your post right) and the crank pulley. Then pull out the pilot bearing and you are good to go my friend.

We are doing one of these swaps right now as a matter of fact. Fairly easy. Idk if 4k would cover install etc, but the engine is really a steal at that price. Being that the engine is being put into something that did not normally come with the LS6, it has a 12/12 parts only warranty, but a warranty none the less.

And I am not so sure on the "we cannot write you the check since you have a loan on it" part. As a matter of fact, I am almost 100% sure that is incorrect. They are just trying to bully you into doing what they want.
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Well I'm not sure. He did mention that I don't even have to fix it since its my car but I don't see how I could do that with those options.

Anyways, thanks for the price on a ls6. I still need to talk to the shop to see my options. He was just guessing 4000 or so. He basically told me as long as its not 75% of nada, which is around 10500 so I think the shop will have quite a bit of wiggle room. There's a guy selling an lq9 long block minus the oil pan, intake and stuff for 700. Basically heads, block and internals all intact. It had like 15 psi of oil pressure so he pulled it. Im hoping to get that and a 408 rotating assembly for about 2000. I think it could be done for a reasonable price but I'm stopping by the shop about noon and I'll see what they think.
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We can also offer a 402 or 408 rotating assembly balanced for 2k. Just add shipping to that and its to your door.

We are very versatile
Old 06-16-2010 | 12:54 PM
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it is an ls1 shortblock with 5.3 heads. used the oilpan, intake, front drive asses on my new motor so you wont get those with it
Old 06-17-2010 | 11:54 AM
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well when i went through this i think the dealership had to send an exact quote of parts and labor. the insurance co did just right me a check for the total though.
If your going through a good independent shop you may be able to get away with more. i was new to ls1's and didnt know any shops to trust other than the dealer, which im sure aired on the side of caution, especially since the LS2 is not as easy of a drop in as the 408.

What block are you thinking of, LQ4 with 4.00" crank?
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Well, I figured out my build pretty much. I talked to a local LS builder and he has a LQ not sure 4 or 9 but he has the shortblock with new bearings, rings and arp bolts for 850. He also looking into L92 ported heads for me and basically he's pricing everything up and he's going to build the motor then the shop is just going to install it. I feel a lot better about that. He seems to really know what he's talking about and seems to think we can build it, get it tuned, and have a little left over of the insurance money. He's supposed to be hearing back about prices soon then I'll know for sure.
Old 06-19-2010 | 01:04 AM
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Well, I got my insurance check today. I was hoping for more, but its 4000. My problem though is they wrote it to me and my lien holder so I'm trying to figure out how I can just use the 4000 and do the work myself. I need to go into my bank tomorrow and see what they do in this situation and if they just pay the shop or what. Anyone have ideas on this? The guy building the motor said for everything minus the accessories (I'll swap over) and the intake manifold and stuff it'd be 3300. So, I'd get a LS3 manifold, a throttle body and I'd be right about at that price. I just gotta figure out how to use the money lol
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The bank only cares about the condition of the car when you stop making payments. As long as you are still making your monthly how you use that 4k is up to you.

Deposit it, then do the work yourself. I wish I had half a brain and did that when I hydrolocked my ls1. Took some bad advice from the father-in-law with mechanical background, didn't know about this site, had a shop do the work and ended up with a high miles replacement that I have to freshen up a lot.

If i could do it over, besides not driving during a flood with CAI I'd of done the work and used the extra money for a new short block.


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