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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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dude your valve is IN your cylinder, yank the motor out. ive done head swaps under that cowl it sucks. why would you do that to yourself for no reason. is it a real SS car?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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its not a real SS its actually a v6 shell (v6 vin#) i just found a 6.0 ($1,000 , 60k miles)on craig off a 04 chevy....i dont know what im gonna do though....how much is it worth?? my car i mean
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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are checker springs required to do a wipe pattern check or does it just make compressing the springs easier?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Black SS
its not a real SS its actually a v6 shell (v6 vin#) i just found a 6.0 ($1,000 , 60k miles)on craig off a 04 chevy....i dont know what im gonna do though....how much is it worth?? my car i mean
i couldnt tell you but v8 swapped v6 cars have value for insurance purposes.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Yeah its is was nice having a v8 with v6 insurance rate
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by djfury05
are checker springs required to do a wipe pattern check or does it just make compressing the springs easier?
The issue with using the actual valve springs is the lifter plungers will compress and when they do the lift is decreased and the wipe pattern altered as a result. If using the valve springs, you should use a solid lifter. However, if you don't want to remove the heads the check springs and dial indicator allows you to set the valve train geometry correctly without a solid lifter.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 06:36 AM
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It looks like you'll need at least one rocker arm and also have to pull the head to have a valve replaced. They both appear to have a problem. You might as well pull both heads, while you're that far in and have a machine shop check out both of them.
looks like the lifters are toast and check your pushrods i dont think the valves are bad but when you pull the heads check em
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
The issue with using the actual valve springs is the lifter plungers will compress and when they do the lift is decreased and the wipe pattern altered as a result. If using the valve springs, you should use a solid lifter. However, if you don't want to remove the heads the check springs and dial indicator allows you to set the valve train geometry correctly without a solid lifter.
so in order to change the springs out to the checkers I'd need a spring compressor tool also correct? Thanks for all the help btw.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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You will need a spring compressor either way at some point to put a spring back on the missing valve.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabbiani
You will need a spring compressor either way at some point to put a spring back on the missing valve.
is that supposed to be a joke
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by djfury05
so in order to change the springs out to the checkers I'd need a spring compressor tool also correct? Thanks for all the help btw.
Yes. Make sure you get a tool that presses on the retainer, not a cheap tool like from Autozone that has two claws. This will damage the valve springs. The Crane tool works great on GM heads and if correctly modified, aftermarket heads as well. Mine was modified so I can removed the valve springs on my AFR heads.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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This thread is ridculous
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Why lol
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Intercooler2
Why lol
Looks like a messed up valve, or dropped valve. Then Homeboy was talking about wipe pattern and how to check it, nevermind figure out if the valve is under the rocker or not. Then the OP somehow starts a discussion on how his v6 car with a v8 gets good insurance rates, then we're talking about spring compressors.

What ever happened with the original problem?? lol
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mart00SS
Then Homeboy was talking about wipe pattern and how to check it....
And exactly who is "homeboy"???
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mart00SS
This thread is ridculous
Im with this guy. THE VALVE IS NOT IN THE HEAD ANY MORE(hence some thing missing in the middle of the valve seal the valve stem lol). Save your self alott of trouble just pull the motor. No checking wipe patterns and all that **** waste of your time .
My brothers sbc 408 that i built last winter did the same thing But he got lucky and the valve was still stuck in the seal(on the retainer groves). Piston hit the valve @ just about tdc so it bent the valve in to a z and nicked the top of the cylinder a lil
It all came down to taiwian tuffy keepers lol wore the step out of the retainers to much spring pressure is my guess. All because he went cheap on the retainers. It dont pay to be cheap in the end; he was lucky doesnt look like you were bud, Just plan on a new motor
Hope this helps
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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what the heck happend? there was a slight ticking in the mornings and when i would drive it and accelerate. then a few days ago i was driving about 30 mph and kur plunk plunk plunk , so i shut it off and towed it home , took the valve covers off and this is what i saw
Plus when you heard the ticking should have shut it off rite then,(that means some thing aint rite)
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by red 95 t/a
Im with this guy. THE VALVE IS NOT IN THE HEAD ANY MORE(hence some thing missing in the middle of the valve seal the valve stem lol). Save your self alott of trouble just pull the motor. No checking wipe patterns and all that **** waste of your time .
My brothers sbc 408 that i built last winter did the same thing But he got lucky and the valve was still stuck in the seal(on the retainer groves). Piston hit the valve @ just about tdc so it bent the valve in to a z and nicked the top of the cylinder a lil
It all came down to taiwian tuffy keepers lol wore the step out of the retainers to much spring pressure is my guess. All because he went cheap on the retainers. It dont pay to be cheap in the end; he was lucky doesnt look like you were bud, Just plan on a new motor
Hope this helps
exactly this is retarded. its OVER johnny
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
And exactly who is "homeboy"???
Oh relax.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Ya, I can see there's a vacancy in that valve stem seal.
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