Hotcam or Pacesetter Longtubes... which next??
Hotcam or Pacesetter Longtubes... which next?? I will have some extra money to spend on my car from tax returns. My question is which should I spend it on? I wish I had enough for both but I don't. I can get the hotcam for $400 and the pacesetters for $450. About how much power will each of these give me by themselves with the mods in my sig? About how much will I have to pay for installation on each? Thanks to all in advance.
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Originally Posted by Tranzor_Z28
I agree... don't waste your time getting a cam but no headers. Get the headers first, then go with the cam.
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Originally Posted by 01Sidewinder
I will have some extra money to spend on my car from tax returns. My question is which should I spend it on? I wish I had enough for both but I don't. I can get the hotcam for $400 and the pacesetters for $450. About how much power will each of these give me by themselves with the mods in my sig? About how much will I have to pay for installation on each? Thanks to all in advance.
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Originally Posted by Steve98Z
Buy a used cam and springs for $200 and the headers only for $250 and run true duals. Total invest for cam and headers= $450
IMO, there's nothing wrong with doing a cam with stock manifolds. The hotcam seems to work pretty well in this kind of application with its large exhaust duration.
Although not by design, I ran a hotcam-only with manifolds for about a year (my oil pump died and I figured it was a good time to do the cam at the same time as a new pump) and it was just fine. No dynos but car felt notably quicker, FWIW.
Although not by design, I ran a hotcam-only with manifolds for about a year (my oil pump died and I figured it was a good time to do the cam at the same time as a new pump) and it was just fine. No dynos but car felt notably quicker, FWIW.
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You can do it in either order; I got my cam first then the headers. But if you're going to do the cam first, I'd pick one with less intake/exhaust overlap than the Hotcam. A cam design like the Hotcam depends heavily on headers to make power. If doing the cam first, I'd look for a used TR220 or TR224 on a 114 LSA. If you really like the Hotcam, get the headers first.
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Maybe I'm off base, but I thought that the larger exhaust duration of the hotcam compensated to some extent for the reduced exhaust flow and scavenging when using stock manifolds, thereby making it a good choice with a "restrictive" exhaust.
Maybe I'm off base, but I thought that the larger exhaust duration of the hotcam compensated to some extent for the reduced exhaust flow and scavenging when using stock manifolds, thereby making it a good choice with a "restrictive" exhaust.
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Cal,
Maybe I'm off base, but I thought that the larger exhaust duration of the hotcam compensated to some extent for the reduced exhaust flow and scavenging when using stock manifolds, thereby making it a good choice with a "restrictive" exhaust.
Maybe I'm off base, but I thought that the larger exhaust duration of the hotcam compensated to some extent for the reduced exhaust flow and scavenging when using stock manifolds, thereby making it a good choice with a "restrictive" exhaust.
A reverse split would be the one that would be simply horrible without headers... traditional split wouldn't be so bad, but you still wouldn't get all you could out of any cam without the headers on there too.
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Originally Posted by Fulton 1
Cal,
Maybe I'm off base, but I thought that the larger exhaust duration of the hotcam compensated to some extent for the reduced exhaust flow and scavenging when using stock manifolds, thereby making it a good choice with a "restrictive" exhaust.
Maybe I'm off base, but I thought that the larger exhaust duration of the hotcam compensated to some extent for the reduced exhaust flow and scavenging when using stock manifolds, thereby making it a good choice with a "restrictive" exhaust.
I did both at the same time. However, headers would be my first choice. I got my headers for $330 + shipping, and sold my catback to pay for a dr gas x pipe setup. 
I also wouldn't choose the hotcam though, because there are much better choices out there for $400 (ie. 918 springs, used cam). But different strokes for different folks. Its just generally common practice to do the boltons first so you make the most power with your cam. Otherwise, you'll have shitty drivability and only be making like 340-350rwhp with the hotcam thats perfectly capable of making 380rwhp with full boltons.
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I also wouldn't choose the hotcam though, because there are much better choices out there for $400 (ie. 918 springs, used cam). But different strokes for different folks. Its just generally common practice to do the boltons first so you make the most power with your cam. Otherwise, you'll have shitty drivability and only be making like 340-350rwhp with the hotcam thats perfectly capable of making 380rwhp with full boltons.Peace,
I don't have time to install headers and wouldn't know where to start with a cam, so I need someone to install them for me. How much should it cost to get each installed?
Originally Posted by 01Sidewinder
I don't have time to install headers and wouldn't know where to start with a cam, so I need someone to install them for me. How much should it cost to get each installed?
Tell ya what I will sell you my Hotcam & springs for 200.00 and install it for 200.00. I see your in Ga. My shop is in Snellville. If you interested send me a PM. Ken