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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Question biggest cam for A4?

i am very flexible on what you would call "streetable", with that said, whats the biggest cam i can put in my a4 camaro and still be able to drive it? i want the hardest loping cam i can put in my car and still have it atleat start when i want it too lol. i have a tci 3500 stall, will have 3.73 gears LT's ORY and a cat back atleast b4 i do the cam......heads will be a ways down the road. i like the way the g5x2 sounds, but is there anything out there that cams harder? maybe im asking for too much, btw.....what kind of problems do you run into with an a4 and cam that big that everyone says its not streetable?
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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you can make most cams streetable with tuning alone...sometimes depending on the lsa you might have to drill out the tb hole a little in addition to tuning but most cams on a 114 will be fine id think...because of autos having a lower idle rpm in D than manuals i believe thats the reason why the are "unstreetable" but with good tuning you should be fine...I'd think

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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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go for the grand am cam
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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I have the G5X2 on 112LSA, it took time to get used to. We raised the idle to 1100 and car is tolerable on the steet. But, you and everyone around you knows you have a monster cam
With proper tuning, anything is possible
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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You may find cold starts a little more tricky. im working with the tuner to help that. I run 1000rpm idle on stock heads and its still taking a warmup to get it to idle well. I do have an EVAP problem, so i need to go let the car cool down and efilive 6.2 datalog some stuff to see whats really going on. Might be as simple as adjusting the TB to let more air in. I see IAC's in the 160 range on a warm startup on a cold freezing day after 10-15 minutes. Quite odd. Just needs some tweaking. Cold start is the only real problem, once its hot, it will idle well, but higher than a m6 will usually.

See my sig for the dyno. I chose a mild cam for stock heads. 224/226 .570/.571 112lsa, it may be a good nitrous cam but honestly, the car is more than i am well capable of handling as it is. with the tcissf 3500 i can blow the 16" nittos away at 30mph roll by flooring it, without ASR on ,you will be holding on to the wheel with both hands trying to keep the tires str8

If you see the before (lid/catback) and after (all mods in sig) you'll see the car went from mild to wild.

and my idea of wild is alot less than some of you freaks
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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will the Grand am cam fit in a 346cu engine? If so that'd be awesome.....im definitely not looking for anything stealth at all.....i want everybody to know its there
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MontereyLS1
will the Grand am cam fit in a 346cu engine? If so that'd be awesome.....im definitely not looking for anything stealth at all.....i want everybody to know its there

I dont think that will work in an auto.


unless the idle is at 2k
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MontereyLS1
will the Grand am cam fit in a 346cu engine? If so that'd be awesome.....im definitely not looking for anything stealth at all.....i want everybody to know its there
yes the grand am will work on stock cubes, check the thread below. but like the other dude said, you'll probably have to have a 1500rpm idle
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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just ls1edit tune your car to idle low with LT/ORY and put dumps (qtec) or a dual exhaust.

hell at 1000rpm idle you can still hear my cam, not as cool as a 600rpm idle but i don't think thats realistic unless you like your car stalling when you slam on the brakes.


whats the lowest idle someones tuned a 112lsa decently sized cam on an A4 thats safe to drive on the street. I would like to know. If i gotta do an ABS stop to avoid an accident i dont want the motor die and put me in a precarious position. STREET and STRIP are two different things.

Btw i got about 120 miles to 14 gallons of gas with 90% city driving, the car used to get 350 miles on 100% freeway, but this kinda sucks . The speed limit is 35mph on my strip to work (2 miles each way every day) and i do warm up the car, and i do obey the limits after getting a 68 in 35 mph ticket, so somethings up.
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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i dont think theres much wrong with your gas mileage.....i used to get 430 miles to a tank city/highway driving when i was stock.....now with the stall obeying the speed limit and not really beating on my car much i get about 250 i think
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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yeah with the tci ssf 3500 say 35-40mph with alot of stoplights, you are generally in the 2000-3000rpm range at 10-20% TPS throttle (not blazing every light) the cops are nasty around here lately. I think this has to do with the crap street performance. Maybe i need a program for street and one for strip. Lock up the 'verter alot faster when im doing my daily.

Whens the folks gonna come out with a switch chip that allows you two carry two payloads of data and dynamically alter them on the fly. That would be handy. I coded that into my vw ecu to do tricks (anti-lag/low octane high boost) etc.

I think tuning sacrifices track speed for mpg, i want both
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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I'm running the cam in my sig with a Yank SS4000 and it idles fine at 600, however in gear it surges up and down, and cold starts usually it fires right up and idles by itself but sometimes you gotta give it a little gas to keep it running for a second so it can find idle. It does stall out every now and then but then again I don't have tuning.

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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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244\244 110 should just be right
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