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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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OK, I bought a used LS1 out of a wrecked T/A. I could see it had 317 heads. I started tearing it down today and discovered the block is a 6.0L iron block. I know some people like these because you can bore them and get more CI. I was going to get a set of 243 heads and a LS6 intake for my LS1, don't know now. Any suggestions from all you gearheads out there. I am putting it in a classic truck-street rod, not a track car.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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Don't see why you still couldn't do that.
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u my friend found a diamond in the rough
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Why do you call it a diamond in the rough, what would you do with it?
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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lol, you have the motor most people kill find on a budget. Its the budget boost motor of the century and the block and crank are responsible for many 9 sec cars hell the lq4 with rod bolts and springs has gone over 700whp
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well you really need to know if its a lq4 or lq9 are the pistons flat or inverted?? and yes the ls6 intake and 243 heads will fit fine on the 6.0
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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The pistons are flat
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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The 243 heads flow about the same as the 317's... it would just increase your compression ratio with 243's. I would keep them and put in a mild cam and an ls6 intake... Run it as is.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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thats an LQ9
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Originally Posted by ss mike
The pistons are flat
the 243 heads will bump the compression of a lq9 to about 10.75-11.0 which is fine. more compression more power. id use the 243 heads and the ls6 intake. and get a cam spec'd by somebody. a 230/234 would be a good driveable cam, imo.
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Diamond in the rough??? These motors are a dime a dozen.
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Definitely the LQ9 with 10:1 compression ratio. Requires 92 Octane and weighs 416lbs. Produces 347 HP in stock form. 6.0 liter displacement

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Displacement = 5.7 L. / 346 CID
Bore x Stroke = 99mm x 92mm / 3.90" x 3.62"
Compression Ratio = 10.1:1
Horsepower = 335 HP @ 5,200 RPM (out of Fbody)
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Looks to me that the only downside to the block would be cooling efficiency. I know when I swapped in my LQ4 I had to go with a high flow water pump otherwise when idling in 90 plus heat the car would want to overheat. The heatsoak would cause problems without it. I swear I thought the Iron block was 90lbs heavier but GM says no. Odd to me.
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OK. Maybe i shouldve been more specific.

To the OP.

You went to the junk yard, or where ever to buy and LS1 from a wrecked car. what you got was a 6.0 motor. lol.

So you got more then what you bargained for.

is that better Zbinkley??

i was referring to the fact that he was after a 346ci motor with 241 heads and got a 364 ci motor with 317 heads.

so, with that said, IMO, he got more then what he was looking for.

i would be ecstatic to get one of those in place of an ls1
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Originally Posted by chasgiv3
I swear I thought the Iron block was 90lbs heavier but GM says no. Odd to me.
you are correct! the iron block weighs about 90lbs more. but id rather have the 6.0 over the ls1. personal preferance.
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The 4.0" bore gives you much better head options. On a budget get some L92 heads and a L76/L92 intake and you have a great bang for the buck. They are more finicky about the cam than a cathedral head but the right combo will beat a budget cathedral setup everytime.... The increased compression of the LQ9 is a big bonus too. You lucked out my friend.....
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u my friend found a diamond in the rough
So a 6.0 truck motor is worth more than an LS1? I would agree with your statement if it was maybe an LS2. I understand a lot use the iron 6.0 to make power with but from what I have read you can pick one up for a lot cheaper than an LS1. Depends on what he paid for it I guess.
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So a 6.0 truck motor is worth more than an LS1? I would agree with your statement if it was maybe an LS2. I understand a lot use the iron 6.0 to make power with but from what I have read you can pick one up for a lot cheaper than an LS1. Depends on what he paid for it I guess.

i was thinking the same thing when i typed it. LS1s go for less then the LQ motors in my part. Atleast at my local LKQ.

i could pick up ls1 for around 800, but LQ4/9 go for around 1200 here.
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Originally Posted by JAX04
i could pick up ls1 for around 800, but LQ4/9 go for around 1200 here.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JAX04
i was thinking the same thing when i typed it. LS1s go for less then the LQ motors in my part. Atleast at my local LKQ.

i could pick up ls1 for around 800, but LQ4/9 go for around 1200 here.
I can get in Arizona a almost complete lq9 except for the intake in 600 it comes from ignition coils to oil pan i guess i should go and pick it up and the ls1 sell for 1200
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Originally Posted by SOMbitch
The 4.0" bore gives you much better head options. On a budget get some L92 heads and a L76/L92 intake and you have a great bang for the buck. They are more finicky about the cam than a cathedral head but the right combo will beat a budget cathedral setup everytime.... The increased compression of the LQ9 is a big bonus too. You lucked out my friend.....
x2 on everything he said.. L92 heads have more potential than cathedral and flow 320 cfm right out of the box. Not to mention they are about $800 for a pair assembled ready to go... and the L76 intake comes with the throttle body ready to go for under $500.. can you say 450-475 rwhp without the blink of an eye?
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