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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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So I went up to my local performance shop where they do tunes, dynos, installs, everything. Originally we were just gonna get new H/C installed for my 01 Firebird Formula but he wants to put a new rebuilt 6.0 truck engine with Injectors, cam, stall, everything I need for 5k....So basically i gotta decide...H/C or Swap?

The Ls1 that I currently have does have 116k miles so its not to bad and its not gonna be a DD just a causal/drag car.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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more cubes is better,you can sell the 5.7 for $500.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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6.0...fresh build....more power, and fair price. 116k on the old motor is a little high to be putting performance parts in. Maybe look into getting your LS1 forged, and compare prices.

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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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I hope that 6.0 doesn't still have the 317 heads?? if so I hope they installed dome pistons during the rebuild to bump the compression up.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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I think he said it comes with ls6 heads
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Depends on what H/C comes on that rebuilt 6.0. I went with a nice sized H/C on my 346 for roughly $3K - is the extra 0.3L of displacement and having a fresh motor worth $2K to you? You can easily make 450RWHP with a good H/C setup on a 346.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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That doesn't seem like too bad of a deal. The nice thing is you have a fresh motor, and if you want more power you can always build a 408 stroker using that iron block.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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I would make him give you a casting number because the 317 heads flow the same as the LS6 heads they look identical ,but the 317 heads have a larger combustion chamber which makes less compression.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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I would love to keep my ls1 cause honestly, I just got this car last month so this wasnt exactly what I wanted to do. Either way he said with the swap im looking at around 580 horses at the crank
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Originally Posted by Andy819
I would love to keep my ls1 cause honestly, I just got this car last month so this wasnt exactly what I wanted to do. Either way he said with the swap im looking at around 580 horses at the crank
What shop are you considering? 580 at the crank is definitely possible - just a little easier to get with a 6.0 vs a 5.7.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy819
I would love to keep my ls1 cause honestly, I just got this car last month so this wasnt exactly what I wanted to do. Either way he said with the swap im looking at around 580 horses at the crank
Then just do a H/C/I swap to your engine and enjoy the car,,

plus 580hp ==upgraded transmission and rear end which you will have to spend more money for.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Its Wichita Dyno here in wichita ks. And the tranny has been rebuilt, and getting gears.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Are you on any of the local KS f-body forums? There's a couple of them with some members that might have an opinion about the quality of Wichita Dyno's work (I've heard of them just don't know how good they are).
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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The KS fbody fourm has been shut done (Cannot Register)

The shop looks very clean though...Got a Boss, 70's z28 and ss camaro in there lol.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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Try ksfba.org - they have an active southern member section. Also nekm.org is another KS one with some guys that probably have more insight on that shop. Lastly you could try kcsr.org which is KC but lots of members in the area.
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