Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

TREX Cam Need Help Please!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 07:12 PM
  #21  
BarneyMobile's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 789
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by Damian
Bucking below 2K is about right for a 240+ duration cam on a stock geared Corvette. A lot of internet fan boys of these huge cams will tell you "mine drives great" but that's mainly because they're either delusional out of being excited just to have a cam in their car or they just don't know any better.

It's hard to say how much better a different tuner can make it drive since I can't see your tune, but I can tell you that 240+ degrees of duration on stock gearing is going to generate some buck/surge in the low rpm's regardless of who's tuning it.

One other possible thing is they could have not scaled the injectors properly, which will effect driveability as well. If the injectors are scaled wrong, it'll throw off the trims and WOT fueling. I've seen shops monkey **** their way around it by manipulating other tables to get their desired A/F, but it causes bad gas mileage/driveability.
I couldn't agree more!! Not to mention the term "driveablilty" is subjective.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 07:17 PM
  #22  
BOBS99SS's Avatar
Captain Double Post
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,615
Likes: 2
From: Elyria Ohio
Default

I do hope you get your issues worked out though man,you guys have a good holiday and God bless
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 07:25 PM
  #23  
disc0monkey's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,302
Likes: 1
From: 5.0
Default

Originally Posted by BOBS99SS
3.90s are better than stock but that's low imho for running a t rex,I run 4.10s in my ms4 and in the process of putting in 4.30s,damien is right though,my car does drive well but had some bucking ,surging on stock gears it was real light but it was there,the 4.10s made the cam,4.30s my car should fly,big cams make all there power up top,higher gears will help you keep it in the power range,can I ask you why you went with the t rex?
guy hes got a m12 its 4.33 gear for us in a light *** car. i really haven't seen a gear significantly help any bucking.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 07:49 PM
  #24  
NoTractionZ06's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: South Lake Texas (DFW)
Default

Originally Posted by disc0monkey
guy hes got a m12 its 4.33 gear for us in a light *** car. i really haven't seen a gear significantly help any bucking.
Thank you yes it is like 4.33 in my b/c of the M12 Transmission and it is 3080lbs with 1/2 tank. And chose this cam b/c I do nothing but highway runs 50-160mph and I am always in its powerband. I took it to a local shop and he gave me some advise on what I could do. And he did not belive me the car put down 462 with just a cam he about **** himself when he saw the dyno sheet.

I am taking it back up to the shop that originally tuned it and will not take it back till everything is fixed.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 09:16 PM
  #25  
BOBS99SS's Avatar
Captain Double Post
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,615
Likes: 2
From: Elyria Ohio
Default

The gear just keeps your rpms up a lil bit more in the 15 to 20mph range where the bucking is at,honest if you drove my car you would not guess there is a ms4 in it,I would put money on it,I have a lot of money spent on the dyno and the guy that tuned my car knows his crap,he was even shocked on how well it was on the street,bigger isn't better we all know that but a big cam setup right is hard to beat,I think you will be happy notraction when ya get the bugs worked out,and good choice in cam for highway runs,the t rex pulls very hard on top,its all in how its setup and tuned,I had no problems driving my car 14 hours home from north carolina,
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 09:25 PM
  #26  
Ryne @ CMS's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,774
Likes: 2
From: murrieta
Default

Originally Posted by NoTractionZ06
My and my buddy just went out to log it. Died a lot and just would not run for crap, the fuel trim is -31% for both banks on the short termside.

And the maf is not reading to well so I am gonna clean it up and see if that helps.

Well my dumbass cannot seem to figure out how to upload on of the logs we did. Using excel to look at it. If someone could chime in to help me upload it correctly that would be great.
ok you either have a o2 issue, or your tune is messed up.... you can make a trex cam idle and drive decent, but surging below 2k is normal.... dont expect it to drive perfect... also every trex cam car i have done idles around 70-75kpa, your tuner likely either A) has it idling too low B) not enough timing at idle or c) both.... i cant accurately tell you whats going on because i cant see the tune/car
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 09:32 PM
  #27  
BOBS99SS's Avatar
Captain Double Post
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,615
Likes: 2
From: Elyria Ohio
Default

Barney I agree with ya,a lot of people get caught up in (I can make 430 with just a cam)and that is such a bad move,I picked the cam that would most help me with my goals,and I'm happy with the ms4,I don't know how other guys rides drive but I didn't drop that much money on a tune for giggles,and as for the gears when those where put in we made a few lil adjustments on the tune so maybe that's where I saw most the improvments in lower rpms,but I still feel the gears helped more than a few lil adjustments,
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 09:35 PM
  #28  
NoTractionZ06's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: South Lake Texas (DFW)
Default

Originally Posted by Ryne @ CMS
ok you either have a o2 issue, or your tune is messed up.... you can make a trex cam idle and drive decent, but surging below 2k is normal.... dont expect it to drive perfect... also every trex cam car i have done idles around 70-75kpa, your tuner likely either A) has it idling too low B) not enough timing at idle or c) both.... i cant accurately tell you whats going on because i cant see the tune/car
Ok thanks Ryne I will tell him this tommrow. I dont know if you remember me or not but I had my car in your shop last spring when I was in the Marines and stationed out in 29 palms it was a 02 Black Z06 and was getting a new CV Axle. Thanks for the help and fixing my car at a great price and you did a awesome job. I am always sending guys still in the military your way with LSX.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 10:09 PM
  #29  
Ryne @ CMS's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,774
Likes: 2
From: murrieta
Default

Originally Posted by NoTractionZ06
Ok thanks Ryne I will tell him this tommrow. I dont know if you remember me or not but I had my car in your shop last spring when I was in the Marines and stationed out in 29 palms it was a 02 Black Z06 and was getting a new CV Axle. Thanks for the help and fixing my car at a great price and you did a awesome job. I am always sending guys still in the military your way with LSX.
o ok, you were the one in a bind because you were leaving town? we replaced the axle and battery correct?
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2010 | 10:11 PM
  #30  
NoTractionZ06's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: South Lake Texas (DFW)
Default

Originally Posted by Ryne @ CMS
o ok, you were the one in a bind because you were leaving town? we replaced the axle and battery correct?
Yep battery went dead and the boot on the right axle was torn and was driving it back here to dfw.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:31 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE