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Old 03-13-2011, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HOTSIX
Thx a lot fellas.

I'm hoping to just get hold of an engine that I wont have to open up - one that is in decent shape and without a huge amount of miles on the ticker. That way I really keep cost down. Just swap out intake, cam, injectors for the LS6 stuff and go.

I figure the 5.3 is a near 300 hp engine stock anyway so the LS6 intake and cam should really wake it up and be more then enough for my S10.

Trouble on the LS6 heads is they're pretty scarce up here Ont. Canada from what I can tell so far - and those that have 'um want way too much for something that may have had way too much abuse.

I figure even with those parts I should be able to make some decent power.
I wouldn't sweat the 243/799 heads too much, the 706/862's should be fine, even with the smaller valve. The bump in compression from the smaller chambers will probably do you more good in the long run.

If I'm not mistaken, I think I remember reading the truck manifolds tend to make more power than the LS6, but the trouble is that the truck manifold is taller so you need the hood clearance to fit it.
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I was hoping that since im going to have to get the 799 heads shaved anyway that would give me the CR that i need. Id be curious to see numbers going both ways. What kind of CR should we be be hunting for to get a good balance of HP and MPG without getting into having to run premium gas?
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Originally Posted by remauto1187
I was hoping that since im going to have to get the 799 heads shaved anyway that would give me the CR that i need. Id be curious to see numbers going both ways. What kind of CR should we be be hunting for to get a good balance of HP and MPG without getting into having to run premium gas?
If you want to run crap gasoline, I wouldn't go over 10.5:1, but I have never built an engine to run on low grade fuel.
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Well the E-85 is plentiful here but its not cheap enough yet that it would be cheaper to run it than 87 octane.

But i guess if i had a car that had to have 92 or higher octane then E-85 it is.
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remauto1187 im running a .522 .529 lift cam. nothing huge but it will be nice. for the heads i got a smoking deal on them thats why i bought them. you could spend your money else where like getting the 862s ported or polished. alot of people do that for the money. then get a ls6 intake you would be golden
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I have been scouring the whole U.S. for a deal on a LS6 intake which is what i planned on running.

Now you got me on the fence....since i have a set of 862 and 706 heads here right now. (I have (2) 5.3l engines that i picked up for $350 for the pair) complete....well one did have a top burn...but it was just a truck intake manifold which wont work for me anyway in a vette.

Thanks for putting me on the fence!
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I apologize for any inconvenience I may have caused in your thread. Moving along
Seriously I hate putting people in their place. I really am a true friend kinda guy and help those that i can, but when someone acts like a total (you fill in the blank) I gotta call BS and raise that flag!

He couldnt just blurt out what he thought only he knew....instead of acting like a 7yo (i gotta secret).

And i hope his secret wasnt just the rebalance the rotating assembly with the 5.7l pistons......DUH! NO SHI^ SHERLOCK.

(Rant off)

You guys can count on me to do what i can to HELP you out.
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lol didnt mean to put you on the fence haha. what are you trying to accomplish like a daily driver or drag what are your plans lol
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Originally Posted by parks450
lol didnt mean to put you on the fence haha. what are you trying to accomplish like a daily driver or drag what are your plans lol
The car is a 1985 Corvette originally equipped with a L-98 TPI 350 rated around 240hp stock. The car will be a daily driver that is put up during the winter and will probably never hit the dragstrip. I have alot of pokers in the fire IE: Rebuilding a house that i bought, running power to a garage, rebuilding another garage, converting house to 200a service and more. So im trying to keep the $$$ in a reasonable range for the motor. I would like to get a min. of 350HP and anything above would be gravy. Id like to keep it running on 87 octane but if i had to mix e-85 with 87 that would be ok too.

Some years later.....sure....a 6.0L bored and stroked will be in order. But right now a 5.3l/5.7l project will keep me entertained.
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Originally Posted by remauto1187
The car is a 1985 Corvette originally equipped with a L-98 TPI 350 rated around 240hp stock. The car will be a daily driver that is put up during the winter and will probably never hit the dragstrip. I have alot of pokers in the fire IE: Rebuilding a house that i bought, running power to a garage, rebuilding another garage, converting house to 200a service and more. So im trying to keep the $$$ in a reasonable range for the motor. I would like to get a min. of 350HP and anything above would be gravy. Id like to keep it running on 87 octane but if i had to mix e-85 with 87 that would be ok too.

Some years later.....sure....a 6.0L bored and stroked will be in order. But right now a 5.3l/5.7l project will keep me entertained.
id say do ls6 243 heads somewhere around 550 lift cam ls6 intake with ported polished intake and possibly bore the block that will put you around 400HP or port and polish the 862 heads
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Originally Posted by parks450
id say do ls6 243 heads somewhere around 550 lift cam ls6 intake with ported polished intake and possibly bore the block that will put you around 400HP or port and polish the 862 heads
400hp would be really sweet for my "budget build". I am definitely going with the bore on the 5.3l block to 5.7l. When you say 243 heads...do you mean with true intake/exhaust valves of the ls6 or with the ls1 valves. Id like to keep with ls1 valves.....since i have 5 AC Delco brand new ones that i landed for $8 each. Now i just gotta score 3 more. lol
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Originally Posted by remauto1187
400hp would be really sweet for my "budget build". I am definitely going with the bore on the 5.3l block to 5.7l. When you say 243 heads...do you mean with true intake/exhaust valves of the ls6 or with the ls1 valves. Id like to keep with ls1 valves.....since i have 5 AC Delco brand new ones that i landed for $8 each. Now i just gotta score 3 more. lol
no the ls6 heads are some of the best stock heads you can get. they beat just about any stock head there is. instead of buying a aftermarket cam you could just get a ls6 cam to with those heads, that would be alittle cheaper. im not sure if you can use ls1 valves in a ls6 head. they will prolly fit but you would have to check PTV clearence first.
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Originally Posted by parks450
no the ls6 heads are some of the best stock heads you can get. they beat just about any stock head there is. instead of buying a aftermarket cam you could just get a ls6 cam to with those heads, that would be alittle cheaper. im not sure if you can use ls1 valves in a ls6 head. they will prolly fit but you would have to check PTV clearence first.
I know they are both 8mm stems but i believe i read somewhere that the ls6 valves are a little longer than the ls1 valves, which is no big deal since you can always buy shorter pushrods.

But i dont think i want to get into the cost of the ls6 titanium intake valves and the sodium filled exhaust valves. They are pretty pricey! I am going to go with the 234/799 heads. I have visited the idea of the ls6 ac delco cam ....i am still pondering that.
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Originally Posted by remauto1187
I know they are both 8mm stems but i believe i read somewhere that the ls6 valves are a little longer than the ls1 valves, which is no big deal since you can always buy shorter pushrods.

But i dont think i want to get into the cost of the ls6 titanium intake valves and the sodium filled exhaust valves. They are pretty pricey! I am going to go with the 234/799 heads. I have visited the idea of the ls6 ac delco cam ....i am still pondering that.
alls the intake valves are is hollow there not titanium and the exhaust valves are sodium filled. there is a set of 243s in the classified section for 300 bucks which is a hell of a deal. but im happy with the 799 heads to, i got mine for 175 shipped which is a steal.
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I think there not titanium.....lol but now im not sure.
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Originally Posted by parks450
I think there not titanium.....lol but now im not sure.
They're only hollow
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LS6 valves are 0.6mm or 0.023622" longer, hollow stem intake, and hollow stem sodium filled exhaust valves.

LS6: intake = 73 grams, exhaust = 65 grams
LS1: intake = 101 grams, exhaust = 94 grams.
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IF you can get the valves cheap there worth it I mean like 150 for both sets or less it might be worth it. If not then there not worth the money, there more for lighter valve train and faster revving.
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Originally Posted by parks450
IF you can get the valves cheap there worth it I mean like 150 for both sets or less it might be worth it. If not then there not worth the money, there more for lighter valve train and faster revving.
They're usually about $400 for both intake and exhaust, but they're hard to find. Last I heard, GM quit making them.
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Yea some dealers still sell them but there thinning out quickly lol. I looked into getting them from my local dealer for my 799 heads and it was 400$, this dealer could still get them


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