Finally going to get a cam, advice please!
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I did both at the same time. Im at 379hp with my 233/239 cam and 3600 stall.. Driving wise, I don't know say since after I had it dyno tuned and took it out on the street for the first time the trans broke shifting into 3rd.. I think you're going to need a 228 cam at least and a stall to hit 400+hp.
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Thought this link may interest you... https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...convertor.html
Also, since you mentioned that the rear is howling...because you are on a budget...don't go with low/strip gears...they will have a nice negative effect on your MPG's. There was a post on here about a guy who researched a bunch of different peoples mods/changes and he found that if the cars had a stall already (3000+) that going to 3.73+ gears gained very little at the track, a tenth or slightly more.
Also, since you mentioned that the rear is howling...because you are on a budget...don't go with low/strip gears...they will have a nice negative effect on your MPG's. There was a post on here about a guy who researched a bunch of different peoples mods/changes and he found that if the cars had a stall already (3000+) that going to 3.73+ gears gained very little at the track, a tenth or slightly more.
This is EXACTLY what i'm talking about, i have about 1000 to spend on this car, and my rear end is howling again. I cannot afford to stall the car and put a cam in, then my tranny **** itself I absolutely cannot do that right now. I understand what you guys are saying though and i really appreciate your honesty and input, but like i said i only have 1000 dollars. How much is a stall and how hard is it to put in? Is it really hard on my trans? I have a tranny cooler also, the previous owner rebuilt the tranny about 10k miles ago and put a tranny cooler in it and a shift kit.
You can get a 3200 stall from circle d for $400. If you don't put a stall in the car will likely barely run faster than it did with the stock cam. Bigger cams require higher rpm to make power. You should not cam an auto without putting a stall in. It is stupid to be honest. I have done it before and you do not get hardly any gains going with just a cam. As for installing a converter. It really isn't hard. Go over to the auto tranny section and START READING. There are alot of good threads going on right now about installing a converter. You are trying to cut alot of corners and it isn't going to work out good for you. You need a 3000+ converter with a cam. And if your rear is whining and your worried about things breaking you might consider fixing problems before adding more power to the car. Like I said a converter can be installed in a day or 2 with a cuple buddies pretty easily. So get a stall first than get a cam. Or at the very least plan on getting a stall very soon after you get the cam in. Listen to what people on here are telling you. So many people are not telling you to get a stall first just to anoy you. It needs to be done. And most you have commented to tell you to get a stall first probably have seen what happens when you cam an auto and don't stall it.
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This is EXACTLY what i'm talking about, i have about 1000 to spend on this car, and my rear end is howling again. I cannot afford to stall the car and put a cam in, then my tranny **** itself I absolutely cannot do that right now. I understand what you guys are saying though and i really appreciate your honesty and input, but like i said i only have 1000 dollars. How much is a stall and how hard is it to put in? Is it really hard on my trans? I have a tranny cooler also, the previous owner rebuilt the tranny about 10k miles ago and put a tranny cooler in it and a shift kit.
if your rear is howling the extra hp/tq is only going to make it worse. and adding a stall could potentially pop it. so i wouldn't do either till you've sorted everything out first.
or you could not listen to me and your car will nickel and dime itself into the grave. chose wisely.
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either spend part of that 1000 on rebuilding your rear end, or keep saving till you can do everything the right way the first time. i know the road you about to travel down and it isn't pretty.
if your rear is howling the extra hp/tq is only going to make it worse. and adding a stall could potentially pop it. so i wouldn't do either till you've sorted everything out first.
or you could not listen to me and your car will nickel and dime itself into the grave. chose wisely.
if your rear is howling the extra hp/tq is only going to make it worse. and adding a stall could potentially pop it. so i wouldn't do either till you've sorted everything out first.
or you could not listen to me and your car will nickel and dime itself into the grave. chose wisely.
yea thats what i'm afraid of. I'm going to take care of my rear first thing. I'm pretty sure it's pinion bearing. I will take everyone's advice and go for the stall first. So with a 3000 stall I could get as big of a cam as I want correct? How easy will it be to hit 400rwhp or more with this setup ( 3k stall and large cam)?
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yea thats what i'm afraid of. I'm going to take care of my rear first thing. I'm pretty sure it's pinion bearing. I will take everyone's advice and go for the stall first. So with a 3000 stall I could get as big of a cam as I want correct? How easy will it be to hit 400rwhp or more with this setup ( 3k stall and large cam)?
get that rear end sorted out and in the mean time read read read
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a 3k stall would do you just fine. i wouldn't go too big of a cam unless you are doing heads and intake at the same time. for an automatic 400rwhp cam only is a little hard to achieve. i would be more concerned with average hp/tq and putting together a reliable set up with the correct supporting mods. 400rwhp does you no good if your car is a dog below 4500. it also does you no good if you wipe a cam lobe/lifter or break a spring after a few thousand miles.
get that rear end sorted out and in the mean time read read read
get that rear end sorted out and in the mean time read read read
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will take some good tuning but it will love that FAST intake up top.
