cam only, no new torque convertor
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cam only, no new torque convertor
can u guys recommend a cam only setup without requiring a new torque convertor?
upgrading the valvetrain is in the budget as well
forgot to add, QTP longtubes, TSP 3 inch true duals extended out the back, SLP intake, and an EFI tune are what I have.
upgrading the valvetrain is in the budget as well
forgot to add, QTP longtubes, TSP 3 inch true duals extended out the back, SLP intake, and an EFI tune are what I have.
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Yep 110% stall first. I gained 6 tenths from just a stall change. Your car will not be fast just doing a cam change. I put a hot cam in my lt1 without a stall and gained less than a tenth in the 1/4 mile. If you have to match the cam with your stall if you have an auto. It is pointless to put a cam in without a stall. It willl pull through the brakes and be completely anoying to drive. STALL FIRST cam second. Save up if you can't afford it right now you shouldn't do it. Plain and simple. Wait tell you have the money
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Yep 110% stall first. I gained 6 tenths from just a stall change. Your car will not be fast just doing a cam change. I put a hot cam in my lt1 without a stall and gained less than a tenth in the 1/4 mile. If you have to match the cam with your stall if you have an auto. It is pointless to put a cam in without a stall. It willl pull through the brakes and be completely anoying to drive. STALL FIRST cam second. Save up if you can't afford it right now you shouldn't do it. Plain and simple. Wait tell you have the money
You can run the cam up to around 226 with no problem at least with my expierience, idled out at 650rpm and had an A+ Jeremy Formato tune so it was fine. Went from a 1.9 60' to 1.8 60's to boot.
I feel like a cam'd auto ls1 without a converter is similar to a converter with no cam ls1 in its trade offs FOR ME.. with the cam and no converter you don't get that brutal off the line torque, but get all the fun of a cam'd ls1 engine up top, but with the converter and no cam you get all that ability to 60' like a beast, but that's where it ends so God forbid you run across someone rolling out of a stop light past 20mph or so where that converter car would get its **** pushed in by a cam'd car where if you lined them up at the track the converter car would likely hold you off.
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Thats BS......i've smoked a buddies car w/ a 228R cam and no stall from a dig, 30 roll, and 45 roll.......you might get some gain from a cam w/ no stall but a stall is hands down the best mod you can do for an Auto car, period.
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im getting 2.0s or 1.9s on beat up drag radials so my 60 ft isnt suffering. at the most, i track the car twice a month for a toal of 6 passes, more like 4 passes since its getting warm.
i dont want to overpower my tires by having a 3400 or higher stall. the cam would come on when im already in motion and in the higher rpm's.
basically what i want is power that comes on at the end of 1st till 4th. i was thinking nitrous but i dont always have the right mix of gas when i need it.
so.....cam?
also, my idle is already 950-1000
i dont want to overpower my tires by having a 3400 or higher stall. the cam would come on when im already in motion and in the higher rpm's.
basically what i want is power that comes on at the end of 1st till 4th. i was thinking nitrous but i dont always have the right mix of gas when i need it.
so.....cam?
also, my idle is already 950-1000
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im getting 2.0s or 1.9s on beat up drag radials so my 60 ft isnt suffering. at the most, i track the car twice a month for a toal of 6 passes, more like 4 passes since its getting warm.
i dont want to overpower my tires by having a 3400 or higher stall. the cam would come on when im already in motion and in the higher rpm's.
basically what i want is power that comes on at the end of 1st till 4th. i was thinking nitrous but i dont always have the right mix of gas when i need it.
so.....cam?
also, my idle is already 950-1000
i dont want to overpower my tires by having a 3400 or higher stall. the cam would come on when im already in motion and in the higher rpm's.
basically what i want is power that comes on at the end of 1st till 4th. i was thinking nitrous but i dont always have the right mix of gas when i need it.
so.....cam?
also, my idle is already 950-1000
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Having ran my car for over a year with no stall and the cam I can honestly say I would rather drive a stock car than cammed car with no stall. It's a ******* waste.
It was hell on the brakes, ran like ****, and made me look like a retard camming then get outrun by a bolt on/stall car.
My car is a **** ton faster on the top end and midrange too, it's not just low end. If you lose up top it means you got in inefficient converter. I picked up 2+mph in the 1/8th with just the converter.
Also, even when the car spins it still gets the same **** 60ft as it did stock stall/cam. But with good tires and even hooking half throttle out of the hole will pull a 1.7 60ft. So it's a win win.
It was hell on the brakes, ran like ****, and made me look like a retard camming then get outrun by a bolt on/stall car.
My car is a **** ton faster on the top end and midrange too, it's not just low end. If you lose up top it means you got in inefficient converter. I picked up 2+mph in the 1/8th with just the converter.
Also, even when the car spins it still gets the same **** 60ft as it did stock stall/cam. But with good tires and even hooking half throttle out of the hole will pull a 1.7 60ft. So it's a win win.
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Ok, you all agreed that the stall is a must on a drag race , what about rolling and high speed racing ? I think without the stall the car would perform better but with less drivability .
Am I right ?
Am I right ?
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You are wrong. With an efficient converter you will also pick up mph as well as cut several several tenths off your et.
A converter is a better mod than a cam, period.
Put a tsp giant in it.. you are already doing it completely wrong, why steer off that path now?
A converter is a better mod than a cam, period.
Put a tsp giant in it.. you are already doing it completely wrong, why steer off that path now?
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im getting 2.0s or 1.9s on beat up drag radials so my 60 ft isnt suffering. at the most, i track the car twice a month for a toal of 6 passes, more like 4 passes since its getting warm.
i dont want to overpower my tires by having a 3400 or higher stall. the cam would come on when im already in motion and in the higher rpm's.
basically what i want is power that comes on at the end of 1st till 4th. i was thinking nitrous but i dont always have the right mix of gas when i need it.
so.....cam?
also, my idle is already 950-1000
i dont want to overpower my tires by having a 3400 or higher stall. the cam would come on when im already in motion and in the higher rpm's.
basically what i want is power that comes on at the end of 1st till 4th. i was thinking nitrous but i dont always have the right mix of gas when i need it.
so.....cam?
also, my idle is already 950-1000
Do the cam only and you might get .3
Do the stall and you will get .3 at least but probably more.
Then later on you can put the cam in that your engine wants, not a band-aide cam.