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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Talking I finally cracked the seal...

After nearly 46K miles, the Formula is Stock Internals no more

Got a little dirty last weekend


There's a lot of room in there, once everything is out


MTI Stage 2E's and my stock 2001 heads (241). Checkout the spring sizes


Old stuff.. (reused rockers)


MTI Stage 2E's

After reaching my goal of running 11.5's Stock Internals, it's time to step up to Heads/Cam and shoot for some 10's

I've been shopping for the past 6-8 months for the best combo for me. My Formula gets driven alot, so I want something I could trust on my long haul trips from Maryland to Florida, or anywhere I decide to drive and race at.

Being that I am on a limited budget, I was mainly looking at most shops "budget" heads. Tony (Nine Ball) and Stephen (Colonel) pointed the 2E's out to me while we were down at the Bristol Bash. Frankly, I never even consider MTI... I just assumed I couldn't afford them .

After looking into different setups, I ordered the MTI Stage 2E heads and a X1 cam. IMO it's the best bang for the buck setup out there. Not to mention MTI is well know for it's quality and performance. Funny enough.. even after a lot of "nice" to have parts, I still came out hundreds of dollars less than what I would have paid for just heads a couple years ago!

Customer support at MTI was outstanding! I place the order and everything arrived as promised, ~3 weeks later. During the install I had a lot of questions, Jayson and the gang answered every one.

Here's a break down of my MTI "Budget" build up:

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-Stage 2E Heads - $1595
-X1 (230/227) cam - $399
-Chromoly Pushrods - $119
-Total w/S&H - $2163

Thunder Racing
-Ported LS6 Oil Pump - $134.96
-JWIS Timing Chain - $134.99
-Total w/S&H - $277.94

MISC Fluids, Gaskets & Bolts - ~$150

If your looking at the "budget" heads, don't count MTI out

Track times coming as soon as the snow melts!

BTW: Special thanks to jmX for the great install documents on http://www.ls1howto.com/ !!
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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sweet

can't wait to see what it can run with the new package
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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that was the combo I was gonna go with, but I wound up saving a few bucks with the TSP cam and PP heads
cant wait to hear your results
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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Great purchase. Come on 10's!!!
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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Nice heads !
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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It woulda gone 10.70s if youda put a ls6 cam and dremel ported heads on her, she should roll for sure.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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I am thinking with a different driver it will run 10.5's at 124-5mph, but with John in the car I see 11.4's at 119mph.. That's cutting a 1.29 60ft as well..
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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vipers and vettes may beat me yet, but ricers will never own me.!!
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Congrats on the new set-up John ! Let us know how everything works out.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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OMG I thought you were gonna stay stock internally forever.
Congrats!
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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Thanks guys! If I can keep everything together, it should be a fun year
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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The MTI S2E's look sweet, I strongly considered them too. Looking forward to hearing how the car runs. Congradulations!
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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VERY NICE!!! After realizing how much my tax return is going to be a lot bigger than i though, i've decided against the n2o route and going with the same heads and cam setup you just did. I recently saw the price on the MTI 2E's and with their reputation, you can't pass that deal up. I can't wait to see your results.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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gotta love the non chalant "i got tired of running mid 11's on stock internals" attitude , cant wait to see what you can pull out of a new h/c package
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Congrats John!

Now throw a bottle in there and run some 9's!
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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AWESOME! would you be able to make it up (or down) for the Breathless shootout?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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N20.. umm no. That would take a lot more money.. (TH-400, converter)

I'd love to make it to the Breathless deal.. unfortunitly our EFA Spring Shootout is that same weekend.. I was already looking
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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Nice to see your finally putting some heads on that beast. If my PP LS6s dont work out the way I like im gonna ditch them for some MTI stage 2Es.
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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get us some dyno #'s. I'll be keepin my eye on this.
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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Nice choice of setup

Its good to see the MTI E heads.
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