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Old 05-04-2011, 10:06 AM
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Hell... Full Bolt-on's and a Stall should put you close, if not into, the 9's - I was running 12.7's consistently with a stock stalled bolt-on with street tires. If a stall cuts .6 to .9 off your time, then that right there puts you into the 11's.
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Originally Posted by n.m.racer
ok, I just checked up some stall websites. PTC doesnt list any of their stall rates, just the size of the coverter. Is the 10 inch for 700 and Ls1 the one I am suppose to look at. Do I pick my stall speed or something? Is it really only 450?

Also where is vigilantes prices? Couldnt find em at all. Is it a call and quote kinda deal?

Id sell the Z06 cam if it was mine. My friend said I could just use it as long as I would like. Plus the ls6 springs will be more than enough to handle this set up and that cam has more lift than the stocker to take advantage of the 799 heads flow. And i remeasured the valve size today, theyre just manley 2.00in and 1.57ex. Gotta save my money for a stall now so a custom cam can wait for the 6.0
You have to call them and tell them what you have so they can build it for you. They don't offer off the shelf converters they will custom build it for your application. Call and ask for Kenny.
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Originally Posted by odarabla
The one thats I got for my new build cost me $1200 bucks but if it's any bit as good as the one that was in my 4L60E then it was well worth the money. The new one is a 8" race convter with no lockup clutch.
I'm interested to see what she cuts.. Knowing ptc its going to hit hard as hell.4400??
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Hell... Full Bolt-on's and a Stall should put you close, if not into, the 9's - I was running 12.7's consistently with a stock stalled bolt-on with street tires. If a stall cuts .6 to .9 off your time, then that right there puts you into the 11's.
9s!? Full bolt ons and a good converter you should run really high 11s.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
I'm interested to see what she cuts.. Knowing ptc its going to hit hard as hell.4400??


9s!? Full bolt ons and a good converter you should run really high 11s.
The one for the 4L60E was a 4400rpm stall and I was cutting 1.46 60fts with a BMR torqe arm and stock suspension. The new one is a 5000rpm stall. and the new engine is a 402ci LS2 that should be making around 650-700 to the flywheel, full suspension. I'll let you know what she does once she's all back together.

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Originally Posted by odarabla
The one for the 4L60E was a 4400rpm stall and I was cutting 1.46 60fts with a BMR torqe arm and stock suspension. The new one is a 5000rpm stall. and the new engine is a 402ci LS2 that should be making around 650-700 to the flywheel. I'll let you know what she does once she's all back together.
No doubt man let me know!! Mid 1.3 short times na? You staying full weight?
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Originally Posted by lemons12
No doubt man let me know!! Mid 1.3 short times na? You staying full weight?
I shaved a little weight off the car I was @ 3620 race weight before and now i'm at 3540. Gonna take the bumper supports and stuff like that off to but i'm not going to strip her down. I love her to much to do that.. LOL and I should be cutting low 1.3 60ft. should be interesting to say the least.
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Originally Posted by odarabla
I shaved a little weight off the car I was @ 3620 race weight before and now i'm at 3540. Gonna take the bumper supports and stuff like that off to but i'm not going to strip her down. I love her to much to do that.. LOL and I should be cutting low 1.3 60ft. should be interesting to say the least.
Are you goingto buy the liteweight support for the front so it doesn't sag?

3540 is still no lite weight!! I'm sitting at about 3450 with my pro stars on.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Are you goingto buy the liteweight support for the front so it doesn't sag?

3540 is still no lite weight!! I'm sitting at about 3450 with my pro stars on.
Yea, i'm going to get them. If you don't mind send me the list of stuff you did to get it that light. It's probably a little lighter since i've had it scaled because I pulled the back seat, spare tire and jack out of it. Was running with this in the car before. I wonder how much weight I shaved just removing that?

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Originally Posted by Head Hunter
Hell... Full Bolt-on's and a Stall should put you close, if not into, the 9's - I was running 12.7's consistently with a stock stalled bolt-on with street tires. If a stall cuts .6 to .9 off your time, then that right there puts you into the 11's.
Bolt ons and a stall get you no where near 9's man.
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Originally Posted by odarabla
Yea, i'm going to get them. If you don't mind send me the list of stuff you did to get it that light. It's probably a little lighter since i've had it scaled because I pulled the back seat, spare tire and jack out of it. Was running with this in the car before. I wonder how much weight I shaved just removing that?
Don't have much of anything taken out but no weight added either.. stock rear no cage etc.. I don't know what suspension pieces weigh less than stock but I have bmr- tq arm panhard springs lcas and 3 way rear shocks. Soon to add drag sway bar and front shocks. Still on stock built trans. Have full exhaust out the back, changing to x pipe and 1chakbers before axel, hopefully drop a few more.

No wipes or motor.. don't drive it but on nice days and it looks cleaner.
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Spare and jack
I have no crap in the car (wallet, change, etc etc etc) and run on 1/8-1/4 tank of gas.
Front sway bar and all brackets/bolts that attach

That's all I can remember, I don't think I have touched anything else... I weigh 180#
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Originally Posted by 00pooterSS
Bolt ons and a stall get you no where near 9's man.
I think it was a typo bro but in case it wasn't you are correct..
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Don't have much of anything taken out but no weight added either.. stock rear no cage etc.. I don't know what suspension pieces weigh less than stock but I have bmr- tq arm panhard springs lcas and 3 way rear shocks. Soon to add drag sway bar and front shocks. Still on stock built trans. Have full exhaust out the back, changing to x pipe and 1chakbers before axel, hopefully drop a few more.

No wipes or motor.. don't drive it but on nice days and it looks cleaner.
Pro stars
Spare and jack
I have no crap in the car (wallet, change, etc etc etc) and run on 1/8-1/4 tank of gas.
Front sway bar and all brackets/bolts that attach

That's all I can remember, I don't think I have touched anything else... I weigh 180#
Yea I have BMR everything and strange single adjustable shocks in the front and rear, PTC built th350 tranny with the lower 1st gear and a PTC 8" 5000rpm stall converter, Strange 12-bolt rearend, the sway bar in the front has been removed along with the rear seat, spare tire and jack. And I am 200lbs. When I had the car scaled everything I listed was still in the car and was removed afterwards. So I probably knocked another 50-60lbs off the car if I had to guess.
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Lemons, if you don't mind, what heads, cam, intake are you running to get to 7.3x's?

Still have 3.23's?
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Originally Posted by 00pooterSS
Lemons, if you don't mind, what heads, cam, intake are you running to get to 7.3x's?

Still have 3.23's?
226/228 .588 114 custom grind
Budget heads basically.. hand ported/milled 317s.. I'm sure they are a bit beter than a stage 1 ls6 head. There was a lot more left with a nice afer market casting, even an AFR 205.
Ls6 intake ported tb
Kooks lts y pipe magnaflow with cutout
Dyno tune
373s 26" tire
4000 converter
underdrive pulley
Swapping to x pipe and one chambers as well as a chrs1313 RAM air and hoping to run some 7.0s@96-97 or so in some good air (would love to see 1500DA)

besides suspension which was listed above.. that is my full mod list. A proper setup goes a lot farther than some big name or big dollar parts thrown together. If you can get in the high 1.4x range 60' with a proper heads cam package you will run 6.9s@97 or so, aka high 10s@120+.
I had a tad bit of traction issues the 7.3 passes night. should have been 7.2s dead hooking and letting it cool completely, I drive over an hour to the track and usually do around 5-7 passes.

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Originally Posted by lemons12
226/228 .588 114 custom grind
Budget heads basically.. hand ported/milled 317s.. I'm sure they are a bit beter than a stage 1 ls6 head. There was a lot more left with a nice afer market casting, even an AFR 205.
Ls6 intake ported tb
Kooks lts y pipe magnaflow with cutout
Dyno tune
373s 26" tire
4000 converter
underdrive pulley
Swapping to x pipe and one chambers as well as a chrs1313 RAM air and hoping to run some 7.0s@96-97 or so in some good air (would love to see 1500DA)

besides suspension which was listed above.. that is my full mod list. A proper setup goes a lot farther than some big name or big dollar parts thrown together. If you can get in the high 1.4x range 60' with a proper heads cam package you will run 6.9s@97 or so, aka high 10s@120+.
I had a tad bit of traction issues the 7.3 passes night. should have been 7.2s dead hooking and letting it cool completely, I drive over an hour to the track and usually do around 5-7 passes.
6.96@98mph was my best 1/8 mile I believe. No matter where in the 10's my 1/4 was (10.95,10.98,10.99,10.96,10.93) my 1/8 mile was always close and so was the MPH 6.96-6.98 in the 1/8 @96-98mph and I believe I had a 7.0@102mph but I was spinning pretty bad off the line.. funny how that works right?
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Originally Posted by lemons12
226/228 .588 114 custom grind
Budget heads basically.. hand ported/milled 317s.. I'm sure they are a bit beter than a stage 1 ls6 head. There was a lot more left with a nice afer market casting, even an AFR 205.
Ls6 intake ported tb
Kooks lts y pipe magnaflow with cutout
Dyno tune
373s 26" tire
4000 converter
underdrive pulley
Swapping to x pipe and one chambers as well as a chrs1313 RAM air and hoping to run some 7.0s@96-97 or so in some good air (would love to see 1500DA)

besides suspension which was listed above.. that is my full mod list. A proper setup goes a lot farther than some big name or big dollar parts thrown together. If you can get in the high 1.4x range 60' with a proper heads cam package you will run 6.9s@97 or so, aka high 10s@120+.
I had a tad bit of traction issues the 7.3 passes night. should have been 7.2s dead hooking and letting it cool completely, I drive over an hour to the track and usually do around 5-7 passes.
Now that's a bad *** budget build.

And you are so right about having a well put together setup, I love pulling people with a ton more in there car but put together poorly.

How much do you have to mill 317's to get down to 61ish or so CC chambers? They start around 70 cc right?

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Originally Posted by 00pooterSS
Now that's a bad *** budget build.

And you are so right about having a well put together setup, I love pulling people with a ton more in there car but put together poorly.

How much do you have to mill 317's to get down to 61ish or so CC chambers? They start around 70 cc right?
Yea, it gets the job done.. Would have ran the same thing with damn pacesetters on it. The kooks are nice though.

They are up there, can't remember last time I looked at the specs for them. I know mine have a pretty respectable port job on them. Being full weight with a small cam and ls6 intake and still trapping 94.5-95 mph In 2200da is a pretty good Indication.

I think I can get down to solid 6.9s with this cam and heads with a few changes in good weather. We will see!
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Yea, it gets the job done.. Would have ran the same thing with damn pacesetters on it. The kooks are nice though.

They are up there, can't remember last time I looked at the specs for them. I know mine have a pretty respectable port job on them. Being full weight with a small cam and ls6 intake and still trapping 94.5-95 mph In 2200da is a pretty good Indication.

I think I can get down to solid 6.9s with this cam and heads with a few changes in good weather. We will see!
How is the rear end holding up? Did you say your pulling 1.5 60fts? **** im only pulling 1.7's. I assume I am not hitting the converter hard enough because I can actually brake stall it to 4k in 2nd.
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How is the rear end holding up? Did you say your pulling 1.5 60fts? **** im only pulling 1.7's. I assume I am not hitting the converter hard enough because I can actually brake stall it to 4k in 2nd.
It is fine... Slight gear whine at certain mph but it is so quiet that I'm the only one that can hear it. Haha

1.50-1.52 60' last track visit with slight traction issues. Hooking I would expect 1.48s that same night.. Few changes and hopefully DA around 700 lower, would love to see some 1.45-1.47s.

Nah... You just need the right brand is all!!!
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Originally Posted by lemons12
It is fine... Slight gear whine at certain mph but it is so quiet that I'm the only one that can hear it. Haha

1.50-1.52 60' last track visit with slight traction issues. Hooking I would expect 1.48s that same night.. Few changes and hopefully DA around 700 lower, would love to see some 1.45-1.47s.

Nah... You just need the right brand is all!!!
Any video of pulling a 1.5, does it tip toe the LF wheel?

Yeah I was having slight traction issues last time at the track pulling 1.7's on brand new MT DR's. But I need to make a couple suspension modifiacations I think to help with that.


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