Cheater cam w/ everything else stock
05-08-2011, 02:51 PM
#1
Cheater cam w/ everything else stock Since i have to change my oil pump and harmonic balancer i thought that i would look into installing a new timing chain and cam while im in there. I don't really like the sound of a lopey cam so i was interested in a TR cheatr cam. Due to money and time constraints i'll be keeping my stock manifolds, heads and intake.
Car is a 90k 99 A4 with stock gears, gmmg catback, and a lid. Its my DD that will never see the track, just looking for a few more hp.
I've done a lot of searches but am still unsure of what all i should replace. Im assuming new springs, retainers, pushrods and a tune are required. Also I plan on installing some 3:73's later this year.
BTW i've done hours of researching threads and stickies but have to admit i still feel a little over my head. I have no concerns about installing everything (i work on jets for a living) but digesting all the different info is still a bit confusing.
Thanks for any help and if anyone has a video of a setup similar to this that would be great!
Car is a 90k 99 A4 with stock gears, gmmg catback, and a lid. Its my DD that will never see the track, just looking for a few more hp.
I've done a lot of searches but am still unsure of what all i should replace. Im assuming new springs, retainers, pushrods and a tune are required. Also I plan on installing some 3:73's later this year.
BTW i've done hours of researching threads and stickies but have to admit i still feel a little over my head. I have no concerns about installing everything (i work on jets for a living) but digesting all the different info is still a bit confusing.
Thanks for any help and if anyone has a video of a setup similar to this that would be great!
Last edited by sneaky7980; 05-08-2011 at 03:05 PM.
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05-08-2011, 09:35 PM
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05-08-2011, 10:03 PM
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LS6 cams on average go for $150 dollars.. you can get a cheater cam that will make more power than an LS6 yet be just as stealthy for ~$200 more. Why not wait a little bit longer to get a better product?
05-08-2011, 10:14 PM
#12
If it was my money, I would, but OP will have to answer that question.
05-08-2011, 10:31 PM
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Since i have to change my oil pump and harmonic balancer i thought that i would look into installing a new timing chain and cam while im in there. I don't really like the sound of a lopey cam so i was interested in a TR cheatr cam. Due to money and time constraints i'll be keeping my stock manifolds, heads and intake.
Car is a 90k 99 A4 with stock gears, gmmg catback, and a lid. Its my DD that will never see the track, just looking for a few more hp.
I've done a lot of searches but am still unsure of what all i should replace. Im assuming new springs, retainers, pushrods and a tune are required. Also I plan on installing some 3:73's later this year.
BTW i've done hours of researching threads and stickies but have to admit i still feel a little over my head. I have no concerns about installing everything (i work on jets for a living) but digesting all the different info is still a bit confusing.
Thanks for any help and if anyone has a video of a setup similar to this that would be great!
Car is a 90k 99 A4 with stock gears, gmmg catback, and a lid. Its my DD that will never see the track, just looking for a few more hp.
I've done a lot of searches but am still unsure of what all i should replace. Im assuming new springs, retainers, pushrods and a tune are required. Also I plan on installing some 3:73's later this year.
BTW i've done hours of researching threads and stickies but have to admit i still feel a little over my head. I have no concerns about installing everything (i work on jets for a living) but digesting all the different info is still a bit confusing.
Thanks for any help and if anyone has a video of a setup similar to this that would be great!
05-09-2011, 07:26 PM
#16
i vote ls6 cam.
ls6 cam/springs would be cheaper than just the cheatr cam itself. not to mention, the ls6 setup was made to work under warranty and last 100k+ miles. the cheatr cam has very aggressive lobes that require a good aftermarket spring (which requires checking and changing annually should you dd this vehicle). just food for thought.
yes the ls6 cam is smaller. will it net the same hp as a cheatr? i don't know, but i have seen a few ls6 cams put down over 370whp with headers and supporting bolt-ons. i think a properly done ls6 cam swap would net you plenty of power and provide years of problem/maintenance free use.
ls6 cam/springs would be cheaper than just the cheatr cam itself. not to mention, the ls6 setup was made to work under warranty and last 100k+ miles. the cheatr cam has very aggressive lobes that require a good aftermarket spring (which requires checking and changing annually should you dd this vehicle). just food for thought.
yes the ls6 cam is smaller. will it net the same hp as a cheatr? i don't know, but i have seen a few ls6 cams put down over 370whp with headers and supporting bolt-ons. i think a properly done ls6 cam swap would net you plenty of power and provide years of problem/maintenance free use.
05-09-2011, 07:55 PM
#17
What specs on that cheatr?
What springs and/or heads?
What manifolds/headers?
What exhuast setup?
A4 or M6?
Tuned?
And anything else you've swapped in regards to the cam.
Sorry for all the questions but i REALLY appreciate your vid and any info you can pass along!
Car sounds great can't wait to see what kind of #'s you put down!
To everyone else thanks a lot for all the info and opinions, i think i'm about there. Reaserching some EPS baby cams also now. Thanks for the heads up!
05-09-2011, 09:37 PM
#18
FYI, EPS has several small cam that would make a good stealth cam.
This one is almost the same as the original TR cheaTR cam.
http://www.engpwrsys.com/index.php?a...od&productId=9
This one is very similar to the TR old man truck cam.
http://www.engpwrsys.com/index.php?a...od&productId=4
This one is almost the same as the original TR cheaTR cam.
http://www.engpwrsys.com/index.php?a...od&productId=9
This one is very similar to the TR old man truck cam.
http://www.engpwrsys.com/index.php?a...od&productId=4
05-09-2011, 11:29 PM
#19
i vote ls6 cam.
ls6 cam/springs would be cheaper than just the cheatr cam itself. not to mention, the ls6 setup was made to work under warranty and last 100k+ miles. the cheatr cam has very aggressive lobes that require a good aftermarket spring (which requires checking and changing annually should you dd this vehicle). just food for thought.
yes the ls6 cam is smaller. will it net the same hp as a cheatr? i don't know, but i have seen a few ls6 cams put down over 370whp with headers and supporting bolt-ons. i think a properly done ls6 cam swap would net you plenty of power and provide years of problem/maintenance free use.
ls6 cam/springs would be cheaper than just the cheatr cam itself. not to mention, the ls6 setup was made to work under warranty and last 100k+ miles. the cheatr cam has very aggressive lobes that require a good aftermarket spring (which requires checking and changing annually should you dd this vehicle). just food for thought.
yes the ls6 cam is smaller. will it net the same hp as a cheatr? i don't know, but i have seen a few ls6 cams put down over 370whp with headers and supporting bolt-ons. i think a properly done ls6 cam swap would net you plenty of power and provide years of problem/maintenance free use.
