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Old May 16, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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I currently own a 2001 camaro SS with pretty much full bolts on. I have two choices to make in regards to the motor. I can either pull the LS1 out and sell it for a good price and drop in an LS7 or Cam the LS1 and feed it the bottle. My dad works at a GM dealership so he can get the LS7 at cost. I just dont know what route to go and would like some peoples opinions on it. How reliable is a nitrous set up? how hard will it be on the motor? etc. If anyone has any pics of the 427 in their camaros please post them. i would love too see! thanks!
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Old May 16, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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Between those 2 choices id def do the ls7 but id put a cam in it atleast while it was out of the car. It'll save urself some work in the future
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Old May 16, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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I would agree with the last reply in that the LS1 and the LS7 are the same outside physical dimensions and basically the same weight with an obvious advantage in torque and hp . Nitrous damaging an engine will happen over time if used somewhat sparingly and if used alot will damage fairly quickly . Just be careful with the LS7 as it could be easy to get in trouble with the law or worse , sorry not tryin to be You're Dad just keep everyone safe . Good luck
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Old May 16, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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$$$$ no object I agree cam an LS7...can't beat more cubes...
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Old May 17, 2011 | 12:31 AM
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Do you understand all that is needed to make the ls7 swap work?

Honestly depending on the cam and shot it may very well be more reliable and faster then the ls7.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 12:36 AM
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There is no way nitrous is more reliable than the ls7. You will need to extend a few connecters and such with the swap but you will have power on demand all the time instead of just when the juice hits. Either way the trans and rearend are going to eventually need upgraded.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 12:43 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys! Makes my decision easier! And yes I do know what's all envolved when it comes to the swap.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisfrost
I would agree with the last reply in that the LS1 and the LS7 are the same outside physical dimensions and basically the same weight with an obvious advantage in torque and hp . Nitrous damaging an engine will happen over time if used somewhat sparingly and if used alot will damage fairly quickly . Just be careful with the LS7 as it could be easy to get in trouble with the law or worse , sorry not tryin to be You're Dad just keep everyone safe . Good luck
I don't see why one will get into trouble with law enforcement with an engine swap, as long as the engine is same or newer year with all the emission equipment installed. He's in Canada that I don't know of but in US you can do engine swap 100% legal, even in suck @ss CA.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 04:52 AM
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But remember, if you go with the ls7 and cam it, you will want yo go with a larger cam than you would in an ls1 because your power will come in sooner in the lower rpm range...I had a 238/242 that was pesky and bitchy on my 346, but when I went with my 408 I pulled the cam out and put it in the stroker and it acted like a baby 224 in a stock cube motor
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Old May 17, 2011 | 05:09 AM
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It's a good read. For engine swap, refers to "Engine Change"

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm
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Old May 17, 2011 | 07:42 AM
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The people stating that nitrous will damage and engine quickly obviously know nothing about nitrous. Head over to the nitrous forums and ask about nitrous there.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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If I could afford it I'd do the LS7. Either way, sounds like you'll be having a lot of fun soon!
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Old May 17, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dskeet6
ls7 swap with cam.... then 100 shot
^^^^This, but put a 175 on it for good measure.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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mmmmmm...ls7
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Old May 17, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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ls7 no contest.

**** 346s with their cams and n2o.

you'd be miles ahead by swapping an ls7 now. **** a bolt on ls7 would be comparable to a cam/100 shot 346.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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^^^yup, mmmmm hmmmm!
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Originally Posted by s346k
ls7 no contest.

**** 346s with their cams and n2o.

you'd be miles ahead by swapping an ls7 now. **** a bolt on ls7 would be comparable to a cam/100 shot 346.
exactly
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Old May 18, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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None of the above.. If you're going to spend big money on a new engine, get a sleeved, forged LS2 427 CI with some LS3 or LS7 heads (TSP 6 bolt 265cc LS7 $1950/pair assembled). You can get the 24x reluctor so you won't need to run a conversion box or tear into a LS7 crate motor. I have an LS7 in the garage, and the whole oiling system is a pain to swap over, as well. Buy a nice longblock 408 or 427 for half the price of the LS7, twice as strong, and have a sturdier engine with the correct oiling system, correct reluctor, all you'll have to modify is your knock harness.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin kuether
There is no way nitrous is more reliable than the ls7. You will need to extend a few connecters and such with the swap but you will have power on demand all the time instead of just when the juice hits. Either way the trans and rearend are going to eventually need upgraded.
there is more involved then dropping in the engine and extending a few connectors. I suggest you do some research.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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I'd have to agree with 67RSCamaroVette, but between the two options you listed I'd still go for the LS7 over the modded LS1.
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