Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

How much power am I leaving on the table?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 11:58 AM
  #1  
MikeWS6's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,354
Likes: 2
Default How much power am I leaving on the table?

With the 1998--- 806 heads vs the newer 241's? I will be doing a 224 cam with the ls6 intake at the sametime. I dont have enough cash right now so I cant do anything to the heads

Last edited by MikeWS6; Jul 6, 2011 at 05:12 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 12:38 PM
  #2  
Patrick G's Avatar
LS1 Tech Administrator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,246
Likes: 34
From: Victoria, TX
Default

The 243s are worth a minimum of 25 additional RWHP with that setup.
__________________

2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.

Reply
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 12:40 PM
  #3  
MikeWS6's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,354
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by Patrick G
The 243s are worth a minimum of 25 additional RWHP with that setup.
So on stock interals its not noticable? Maybe I should at least have them ported after the cam/intake.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 01:15 PM
  #4  
thunderstruck507's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,358
Likes: 27
From: Northwest AR
Default

243s are the "ls6" type heads and are worth doing

241s (the newer ls1 castings) are not going to be a noticeable improvement over what you have

Just trying to be clear which you are talking about.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 02:07 PM
  #5  
mike171562's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 506
Likes: 1
From: Spring
Default

I pulled around 388 rwhp with a 228 cam , ls6 intake, and TSP headers and Y-pipe with the stock 806 heads.

I got a set of 243 that I'm about to put on and hoping to break 400 with them.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 05:13 PM
  #6  
MikeWS6's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,354
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
243s are the "ls6" type heads and are worth doing

241s (the newer ls1 castings) are not going to be a noticeable improvement over what you have

Just trying to be clear which you are talking about.
Im sorry. Yes I meant the 241's thanks.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 05:29 PM
  #7  
PREDATOR-Z's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 14,620
Likes: 17
From: BFE
Default

Originally Posted by MikeWS6
With the 1998--- 806 heads vs the newer 241's? I will be doing a 224 cam with the ls6 intake at the sametime. I dont have enough cash right now so I cant do anything to the heads
Why bother unless them 241s are ported.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 05:49 PM
  #8  
Patrick G's Avatar
LS1 Tech Administrator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,246
Likes: 34
From: Victoria, TX
Default

Originally Posted by MikeWS6
So on stock interals its not noticable? Maybe I should at least have them ported after the cam/intake.
On stock internals, it's still worth 20-25 additional rwhp. This morning you mentioned 243 castings (then you later edited your thread to say 241 castings). Going from 806 castings to 241 castings is a waste of money as they flow very close to the same.
__________________

2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.

Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 6, 2011 | 06:19 PM
  #9  
MikeWS6's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,354
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by Patrick G
On stock internals, it's still worth 20-25 additional rwhp. This morning you mentioned 243 castings (then you later edited your thread to say 241 castings). Going from 806 castings to 241 castings is a waste of money as they flow very close to the same.
Yeah my bad. I was pretty tired this morning and didnt notice the mistake until later in the day. Thanks, I thought they flowed close
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2011 | 12:49 AM
  #10  
garygnu's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,445
Likes: 4
Default

you can get 243/799 heads for $400 or less.alot cheaper then porting stock 806/241 heads .get a good valve job and springs.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2011 | 10:57 AM
  #11  
MikeWS6's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,354
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by garygnu
you can get 243/799 heads for $400 or less.alot cheaper then porting stock 806/241 heads .get a good valve job and springs.
Are you talking used or on a spon. site?
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2011 | 11:37 AM
  #12  
thunderstruck507's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,358
Likes: 27
From: Northwest AR
Default

Used on this site.

I picked up some 799 for $275 shipped.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:43 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE