Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Rocker "tap?"

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 27, 2011 | 07:19 PM
  #1  
CHADsterss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 344
Likes: 1
From: La Porte, TX
Default Rocker "tap?"

Hey guys I know the LS1 is knows for the infamous "tick," but this has been bothering me for the longest time. I hear a ticking sound for the passenger side of my engine it tends to speed up as my RPMs go up. I have done plenty of research on this forum but just cant get a 100% conformation on this cause I've seen people saying it could be the oil pump or even a spun bearing... I'm just not sure, thanks in advance!
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2011 | 08:44 PM
  #2  
3rdCoastPowerSports's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,154
Likes: 6
From: Loony Bin
Default

Originally Posted by CHADsterss
Hey guys I know the LS1 is knows for the infamous "tick," but this has been bothering me for the longest time. I hear a ticking sound for the passenger side of my engine it tends to speed up as my RPMs go up. I have done plenty of research on this forum but just cant get a 100% conformation on this cause I've seen people saying it could be the oil pump or even a spun bearing... I'm just not sure, thanks in advance!
if you can post up a video and let us help you diagnose it
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2011 | 09:12 PM
  #3  
CHADsterss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 344
Likes: 1
From: La Porte, TX
Default

Sure, I'll have it up tomorrow.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 11:32 AM
  #4  
CHADsterss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 344
Likes: 1
From: La Porte, TX
Default

Here are two videos of it, one from a cold start up and the other is after the engine has warmed up.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAo3GMdg9-Y




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD3T62b-qZI

Any Ideas?
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 11:51 AM
  #5  
LilJayV10's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (39)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 9,711
Likes: 999
From: Evansville,IN
Default

Have you checked for exhaust leaks? I had a header leaking and I was convinced it was the valve train till I fixed it.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 12:04 PM
  #6  
CHADsterss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 344
Likes: 1
From: La Porte, TX
Default

Originally Posted by LilJayV10
Have you checked for exhaust leaks? I had a header leaking and I was convinced it was the valve train till I fixed it.
Hmmm no I haven't. I literally just took this video, I'll let her cool down then go check.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 12:10 PM
  #7  
LilJayV10's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (39)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 9,711
Likes: 999
From: Evansville,IN
Default

My exhaust leak was on top of the header collector bouncing off the floor pan. It echoed up the floor into the engine bay. It was really bad around 2500 rpm when I was driving it. I couldn't believe it was an exhaust leak.

Your noise doesn't seem to have a high enough pitch to be a rocker. I could be wrong though. Let us know what you find out.

If your leak is bad enough you will probably be able to see soot where it's leaking or start it when it's up and jack stands and put your hand around the connections before it gets too hot.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 12:36 PM
  #8  
01formula6's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 510
Likes: 1
From: Schaumburg, IL
Default

I had a similar noise before, ended up being that the #7 spark plug was a little loose.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 02:37 PM
  #9  
CHADsterss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 344
Likes: 1
From: La Porte, TX
Default

Check for exhaust leaks and I couldn't find any, I also check the spark plugs and they were all good too. I found out Its hard getting to the passenger side of the engine there is zero room lol
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 02:55 PM
  #10  
NC98Z's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,306
Likes: 0
Default

I had a crack in the pipe that comes off the headers for the EGR Valve. Never could find it until it finished cracking and fell off. Then I just took a wire fed welder and welded what was left closed.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 04:18 PM
  #11  
CHADsterss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 344
Likes: 1
From: La Porte, TX
Default

Hmm... I'll have to check that.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 09:12 PM
  #12  
CHADsterss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 344
Likes: 1
From: La Porte, TX
Default

So let's say it is the rocker tapping on the valve cover, is it anything I have to worry about?
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 09:32 PM
  #13  
RARON455's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,616
Likes: 4
From: Fort Worth Texas
Default

Yes it would be something to worry about,,but I Dont think the rocker could actually hit the cover, But if it is loose, that could be the source of the noise and could cause considerable damage,, Pretty easy to just pull the cover and have a look, If you want to be certain, Pull the rockers off, and take the pushrods off, then roll them on something flat, if they roll smooth you know they are straight and not bent. Then re-install and torque the rockers to spec,, 22 ft. lbs. The only thing this will cost you is about 12 bucks for a set of valve cover gaskets, and some time,, But It will give you piece of mind...
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 10:24 PM
  #14  
WS6ICK2k's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
From: North Carolina
Default

Def not piston slap I have same issue in mine by disappears at any rpm over idle such as 1200 RPM.
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 11:53 PM
  #15  
LilJayV10's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (39)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 9,711
Likes: 999
From: Evansville,IN
Default

I think if the rocker was loose enough to hit the valve cover the noise would be way worse than that and it would probably jump off the pushrod.

As Rarron said the next thing to do is pull the valve cover off. First look for any obvious problems, needle bearings laying in the head, broken spring(not that I think that's it just an example)

Turn the engine over and wiggle each rocker when it has no lift on it and see if any look/feel different. If you don't find anything start pulling the rockers off. Look at the valve tip and the end of the rocker and inspect for excessive wear.

Depending on how bent a pushrod is you might find a rocker arm that's loose.

Can you tell which cylinder the noise is coming from? I would get a stethoscope and put it on top of the valve cover and listen while the engine is running. You will hear the echo of the tick but when you get close to it it will be amplified. Doing little stuff like that and checking things will help narrow your search down instead of pulling the valve cover off and just tearing in to it. Let us know what you find.
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2011 | 12:14 PM
  #16  
98blkz28's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA
Default

So i think mine is doing it as well, the other day I had low oil light and pressure..checked oil had 2.5qts wtf!!! Changed oil and still tick...there are needle bearings in my oil which some forums are saying its the rockers, i have them, just havent changed them....but also as some pages say... it could be oil pump (my oil gauge is ticking around 40)...then maybe lifters, or exhaust or i dont know!!! HELP LS1TECH YOU ALWAYS DO!!!!
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2011 | 12:24 PM
  #17  
98blkz28's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA
Default

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F78hz0ViA58
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2011 | 12:47 PM
  #18  
CHADsterss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 344
Likes: 1
From: La Porte, TX
Default

Originally Posted by 98blkz28
Wow seems like its the same exact thing as mine, I haven't torn into it quite yet but when I do and if I find out what it is I'll give yall a update
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2011 | 01:14 PM
  #19  
gMAG's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,033
Likes: 4
From: CT
Default

I've got a similar sound near #7. It sounds like the rocker/pushrod clearance is too much.
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2011 | 01:27 PM
  #20  
98blkz28's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA
Default

neither have I, I have the rocker arms. Bc the needle bearings are coming out, so idk if that could be the issue.

BUT YES PLEASE UPDATE ME!! I'm Gonna open it up soon too!
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:24 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE