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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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Ok so i have a 2000 camaro ss with 853 heads and my buddy has an 06 gto with 243 heads and were going to swap our heads whats involved? What type head gaskets should we both use and mainly im concerned with the push rods, will i use my stock rods or should i use his rods and him use mine? Or will i need to order different rods? Thanks!!!
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 11:41 PM
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is he gonna install the 853's on his goat?
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 12:09 AM
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It's an easy swap. Direct bolt on swap, you just need head gaskets.
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 01:22 AM
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yea were swaping heads hes in need of money and im in need of power . and will the push rods be the same length or what? thanks for the help guys!
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You will need head bolts and head gaskets. I would mill the heads for flatness before installing them.
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i was told i can reuse the stock head bolts? im getting his ls6 valve train and ls2 heads and hes getting my 853 heads and valve train should i use his rods as well and he use my rods?
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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LSX head bolts are torque to yield. Don't reuse them
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Pushrods and rockers should all be the same.
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 02:49 PM
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i was told i can reuse the stock head bolts? im getting his ls6 valve train and ls2 heads and hes getting my 853 heads and valve train should i use his rods as well and he use my rods?
Do not try this! You need new bolts, they are about 35 bucks a side. Your pushrods will be fine unless you mill the heads.
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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I believe they use two different type of head bolts. The 2000 will all be the same length and the 06s will be different lengths. You definately need new head bolts. The 2000s will probally cost more.
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This sounds like it won't end well.....
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lol i think i got it thanks for all the help guys
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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Your friend sounds crazy to me. 853's are a big downgrade from his stock 243's. Not to mention that his 243's are likely only worth $400ish assuming they're in decent shape. Yikes.

Anyways, as stated above, buy new ARP head bolts and dont look back. I agree with having the heads milled lightly to ensure proper seating of the heads. New gaskets are also a must. You're still looking at $150-200 in parts to swap the 243's on and that isn't considering milling costs/new pushrods.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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what a friendship, may not last to long once his goat finds out its faster off a cliff with the 853's on there!!!
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thanks again guys but will i need to get original ls1 head gaskets or should i get ls2 head gaskets im assuming ls1 because i believe he has a bigger bore?
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thanks again guys but will i need to get original ls1 head gaskets or should i get ls2 head gaskets im assuming ls1 because i believe he has a bigger bore?
You are gonna need to get the correct head gasket for the bore of the engine in this case.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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FAQ's might help you just a wee bit
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