Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

crank case evac?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 28, 2012 | 05:57 AM
  #1  
06X6spdGTO's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 643
Likes: 1
From: Kearney, NE
Default crank case evac?

Anyone ever use the collectors on a set of longtubes to evac there crank case? Remember my dad saying the did this to free up some power on older SBC/BBC stuff. Wondering if the same principles applied to the genIII/IV SBC
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2012 | 09:49 AM
  #2  
mark21742's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,481
Likes: 5
From: PA/MD
Default

Yes, my friend bills98ta on hear uses this setup on his 98ta.....one tube on each side running from the valve cover to AFTER the muffler and mounted in the exhaust at about a 45 degree angle...that was his setup last year, this year he built a 2 quart catch can the tubes run into and back out of and down to just after the collectors.....if you don't run a catch can you need to go into the exhaust after the cats and mufflers
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2012 | 10:43 AM
  #3  
66LeMans's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Kearney, NE
Default

Whats the reason for running behind the muffler or cat if ur not using a catch can?
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2012 | 10:56 AM
  #4  
mark21742's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,481
Likes: 5
From: PA/MD
Default

You don't want raw oil and vapor to build up in the cat or muffler, ignite and blow off
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2012 | 10:57 AM
  #5  
DONAIMIAN's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 0
From: NW Houston, TX
Default

Originally Posted by 66LeMans
Whats the reason for running behind the muffler or cat if ur not using a catch can?
Its a verry dirty method of clearing the crankcase. Oil gets sucks out and would clog the cats and mufflers.
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2012 | 11:07 AM
  #6  
66LeMans's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Kearney, NE
Default

This is going to be in a full drag car with no cats. It will have race mufflers directly behind the headers. Still possible? Still 45 degree angle if installed in the collector?
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2012 | 11:58 AM
  #7  
mark21742's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,481
Likes: 5
From: PA/MD
Default

Id still run the catch can/cans and then right into the headers....45 degree angle and let the tip of the evac Bing hang down into the exhaust flow 3/4-1".....you would be amazed at just how much oil this will suck out of the motor...everyone that runs after you will thank you for running a catch can. Bill could get as much as 1/2 pint out of the catch can after each run and you don't want to dust that onto the track
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2012 | 12:36 PM
  #8  
06X6spdGTO's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 643
Likes: 1
From: Kearney, NE
Default

Could u evac using the exsiting egr ports? Or dont they produce enough vacuum?
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-4

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-8

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 12:31 AM
  #9  
Driftunit's Avatar
12 Second Club
15 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 312
Likes: 2
From: Spruce Pine, NC
Default

Wait a sec.. from the factory its run into your intake manifold.. would that not have the same vacuum as the exhaust because the air comin in is going the same speed as the air going out?... and if this is so, wouldnt you think that 1/2 a pint from one run seems a bit much? i would think the only oil comin form the case would be in the form of steam, which would mostly get blown out of your exhaust anyway if you had that setup. either way the catch can seems to be the best idea anyway you look at it. im just trying to get some details straight before i decide my own setup
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 05:05 AM
  #10  
mark21742's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,481
Likes: 5
From: PA/MD
Default

Once your pushing it on the edge and if you have lose rings toth a 200+ n2o shot on top of that while pulling a good vacuum through the catch cab you would be suprised just how much oil you can get in the catch can from just one hard high rpm run.

My friend Bill built a tall narrow can that can hold up to 2 quarts of oil.

Most ls motors stock after you get some miles on them will have a coat or even a puddle of oil in the intake because of this.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 07:01 AM
  #11  
buschmec's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Default evac

yes they do work, the trick is to create a "good location" to keep from pulling oil into the evac system. think of them as a siphon, as the exaust passes it siphons air due to the angled tip and the velocity of the flow. if you restrict the flow (muffler or cat) it won't function as well if at all. the catch can is a great move if you can package it in the intake. on a side point for the car that pulls a pint, i would look for another location to pull from (its difficult on the ls engine). on my downpipe with a turbo system i've seen as much as 8in. of vacuum in the crankcase.........its all about placement.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:37 PM.

story-0
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-4
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-5
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-6
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-9
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE