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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 12:48 AM
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I am planning to buy a cam and one of my friends recommends me to buy the XE-R 287hr form COMP Cam. Did anyone tried this cam and what was the results and what would be better the XER 287 or the MS3

COMP space ( 238/240 .605/.609 112lsa )
MS3 space ( 237/242 .603/.609 112lsa)

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102/102 FAST intake
Yank SS3600 stall
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push rods 7.400” from trick flow.
3.73 geare
ACEL 30lbs fule injectors.

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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 01:03 AM
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anyone please
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 01:05 AM
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Those two cams are too closely matched to have much difference. I personally have the MS3, and it runs like a champ. I just wish I would have gone a little bigger than the MS3.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumpnZ28
Those two cams are too closely matched to have much difference. I personally have the MS3, and it runs like a champ. I just wish I would have gone a little bigger than the MS3.
Actually I’m thinking of the MS4 but I don’t know who it performs to daily drive.
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My ms4 car drove reasonable with stock 3.42's and a 6 speed with a less than good tune. If you dyno'd these two cam's back to back, you probably wouldn't notice a difference. But...it all depends on other factors as well such as lobe design, ICL and ramp rates...
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 02:10 AM
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Oh, and once I got 4.11 gears and a better tune the ms4 was fine. The spool made it a bitch pulling out of the driveway and parking spots because the ms4 does not offer much down low.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bww3588
My ms4 car drove reasonable with stock 3.42's and a 6 speed with a less than good tune. If you dyno'd these two cam's back to back, you probably wouldn't notice a difference. But...it all depends on other factors as well such as lobe design, ICL and ramp rates...
So do you think the MS4 will be fine for DD with a very good tune on 112 lsa
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Your going to need a spot on tune and 4.10's in the rear for it to drive good. I have a real high tolerance for what I call good street manners. So I didn't mind some bucking and surging down low. It was minimal at best and went away after about 2k.

If you plan to seriously daily it, I would go with a torquer v3 or a 228r. You will get more useable power for the street and better driveability. The ms series cams and similar are top end cams. They shine above 4k rpm's. If you don't plan to drive it at thoes rpm's all the time or very often, I would go with the torquer or 228.

You will lose some power up top, but you will retain a lot of bottom end tire shredding grunt that truly makes a car fun.

Not only that but with the ms cam's, You will be changing valve springs every 20 to 30k miles.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 04:13 AM
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And I see from your mod list, with the ms4 or 3 you will need larger injectors.
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I see you have an auto, you will want 3.73's at least. Which you already have. Sorry about that.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 05:23 AM
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ok what about the COMP Cam XE-R 287hr any idea because it's the only cam available now and i think it will perform like th MS3 as the #'s i see .

what do you think

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what do you mean its the only cam available?

the comp cam you have listed and the MS3 are very similar, and will perform very similar. I was just saying, you will most likely be happier with a Torquer V3 or 228 for a DD. They wont make the peak numbers like the Comp cam or MS3/4 but they will blow them away with under the curve, useable power.
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What car is it going in? Gto?
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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I've got about the same setup. I daily drive mine all the time. Your torque convertor and gear ratio are more suited for a smaller cam than you are looking at. Something like a TSP TV2 would really scream in your car. But if you want to go big send the SS3600 back for a restall and run 26" MTs with your 3.73s.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by outkast6991
What car is it going in? Gto?
it's a 2004 holden commodore ( Lumina SS )
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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I daily drove my 04 GTO with a 238/242 on stock 3.46 rear gears and it was a tad on the big side, but a set of gears would have made it great....I ran a 4,000 stall with it too
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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there are a few other cam companies on this forum that offer a cam to meet your needs.take your time and look a little bit more.maybe check out the dyno sections for hp numbers.do a search for a certain cam and see what comes up.it is worth your time to do a little research for such a important part.
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I had the 238/240 XER cam in my old car for a little while. You will definitely need a looser converter...I had a 3600 stall in that car, and it was too small. you will need at least a 4000 with this cam or the MS3 or MS4...
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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Those cams are so close that you will not notice a difference.
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by moeZ28
I had the 238/240 XER cam in my old car for a little while. You will definitely need a looser converter...I had a 3600 stall in that car, and it was too small. you will need at least a 4000 with this cam or the MS3 or MS4...
How was the drivability and what was the dyno numbers with / H or not . Is it worth to go with this cam or better to go with MS4 112 LSA considering the DD and excellent tune
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